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Old 05-26-2017, 04:38 PM
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Maybe it is a Gen2 issue

Originally Posted by Big-Foot View Post
Then why try and make it a Gen-2 Raptor issue when it is not?
Did you think that the engines put in the Raptors were going to be extensively different than the run of the mill F150 3.5EB?
I do not expect that the engine in the 2017 Raptor would be any more or less reliable than the standard F150 engine. Point in fact, on the whole, the F150's engines have been some of the most reliable engines Ford has.
Since this forum is basically dead with regards to SVT and or Ford Performance RAPTORS the Specific Ford Raptor Forums have lots of information on GEN 2. Not sure what's in the manual, but it seems owners are finding out they have to use Premium Gasoline. Not that's an issue. But is interesting reading those forums for those interested. And yes several have had engine or transmission issues, but that's normal for new products. The issues I don't like to read about are those where the customer has had continuing issues and Ford slow walks any resolution that's satisfied the customer. Exploration and Development, should be on Fords dime, and not the owners dime and inconvenience.

The problems are inherent in 2015 and up F-150's, 2017 Raptors and 2017 Super Duties, similar vehicles, similar issues. One would hope eventually Ford would solve a problem instead of continuing to mass produce it!

Fortunately many customers are happy with their vehicles.
 
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Old 06-15-2017, 03:40 PM
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The ecoboost misfires are popping up now on many of these Raptors. The solution has been to drill the 1/16" weep hole in the intercooler to evacuate the condensate while driving. Evidently Ford has never solved this issue.
 
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Old 09-13-2017, 07:17 AM
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93Cobra, I think you're crazy. Way too many generalizations. I get you don't like the EcoBoost engine. In my family, let's see. My dad bought a brand new 2016 F-150 with the 2.7L EcoBoost. 20k miles and that vehicle hasn't had a single issue. Zero. My mother had been driving a 2010 Lincoln MKS 3.5L EcoBoost for years; traded it for another 2014 MKS 3.5L EcoBoost. The 2010 Lincoln needed one O2 sensor replaced at 52k miles. That was it. The 2014 has been flawless so far aside from the touch electronic panels. My brother in law bought a 2013 F-150 3.5L EcoBoost new and has about 80k on it now. The sole problem was an early-on catalytic converter failure fixed under warranty. Otherwise, no problems. I just drove a 2017 F-350 dually diesel for a full year and 15k miles. Once again, zero issues except a failed power-folding mirror (replaced under warranty). Now I'm driving a 2018 Ford Raptor. So far, about 625 miles on it including about 100 miles of towing. No issues, and I don't expect any. One of our shop suppliers for welding parts and equipment tows an 8k trailer 5 days a week with his 2013 F-150 3.5L EcoBoost. The truck ran to 200k and had one turbo fail. He replaced both as a precaution; truck is still on the road.

So my point is that there are honestly many people happily driving EcoBoost powered vehicles with little to no issues for long periods of time. Of course you can find problems with any engine or any vehicle...regardless of the manufacturer...but that certainly doesn't make Ford unique.
 
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I think 93Cobra has worn out his welcome Troverman.....Seen you hanging out on the TFL forum. Still enjoying the Raptor? Man I'd love to have one, just can't think of a good enough excuse to pull the trigger. My only issue with the Raptor is the dealers charging so much of a "Market Adjustment" (no issues with the truck itself at all), I can't make myself pay over sticker.....yet..LOL
 
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Old 09-22-2017, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RigTrash601 View Post
I think 93Cobra has worn out his welcome Troverman.....Seen you hanging out on the TFL forum. Still enjoying the Raptor? Man I'd love to have one, just can't think of a good enough excuse to pull the trigger. My only issue with the Raptor is the dealers charging so much of a "Market Adjustment" (no issues with the truck itself at all), I can't make myself pay over sticker.....yet..LOL
Thanks RigTrash...I do post on TFL a fair amount. Those forums are starting to degrade, but still a lot of interesting tests.

I am still enjoying the Raptor. Just towed 11.5k with it using only a W/D hitch and shifting the load as far back as I can on the trailer. The Raptor was sitting just about level. I won't need to tow this much often, but it can do it.

Unfortunately, I also had to pay above MSRP. You simply cannot find one around here that isn't well above sticker. I've never paid sticker for anything in my life. Most dealers only get one or two allocations per year for the Raptor; some get none at all. I don't think most dealers are interested in letting a customer place an order for one, because they know they can put one on their lot for +$10k and will generally get it. I paid +$5k over sticker.
 
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There are actually several dealers selling at MSRP, below MSRP, and a few for invoice. There is a 17 AG that is $3k under sticker. An autonation dealer in Ohio had 5 trucks that way.
 
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Originally Posted by Mcnawsty View Post
There are actually several dealers selling at MSRP, below MSRP, and a few for invoice. There is a 17 AG that is $3k under sticker. An autonation dealer in Ohio had 5 trucks that way.
Links or calling BS.... ....
 
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Old 09-25-2017, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Big-Foot View Post
Links or calling BS.... ....
I tend to agree. Since all the dealers in a tri-state area around me either had no Raptors or were charging $6-10k above sticker, I'm not sure why some dealers would sell them for less than sticker. It doesn't make sense. If so, for that amount of savings, people would immediately fly to that dealer and drive their new truck home. They'd be gone almost immediately.
 
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Old 09-26-2017, 09:36 AM
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Autonation - Amherst, OH. They have a 17 AG for $3200 off MSRP, and several others for under MSRP.
 
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Old 09-26-2017, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Mcnawsty View Post
Autonation - Amherst, OH. They have a 17 AG for $3200 off MSRP, and several others for under MSRP.
I see their site does list "available savings" in this amount, but at the bottom it also says prices on the Internet are subject to change. If this is a real price, and you didn't mind getting the graphics stickers, it would be a great buy. I think if you search high and low, though...you'll find most dealers are charging quite a bit more than sticker.
 
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Old 09-26-2017, 10:18 AM
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I'm not surprised to see a 2017 discounted from MSRP - particularly from a high volume dealer that has 2018's on the lot at MSRP.
Thanks for the info McN... BS flag removed..

 
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