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Old Feb 9, 2017 | 07:47 PM
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My choice is new PIS based on what I have seen. If I were forced to go with reman for some reason, I would go Unlimited Diesel (lifetime warranty) or Rosewood to rebuild the very same injectors I took out of the truck to the specifications I desired. I would not hesitate to throw an extra $150 down when you are talking nearly $2K in parts.

Single shot injectors is the way to go, hands down.

On a side note, seriously consider the KC38R over the 38R, it is a very nice drop in turbo.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2017 | 08:16 AM
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Unfortunately the KC38R looks a little too aftermarket to reliably pass CA smog.

I'm not really considering reman or rebuilt injectors.

My employee stock purchase plan has been doing REALLY well the past year - our stock has more than tripled. I was pretty surprised when I looked at it yesterday. This round is on me!
 
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Old Feb 10, 2017 | 08:48 AM
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[QUOTE=andym;16940111]Unfortunately the KC38R looks a little too aftermarket to reliably pass CA smog.
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They look the same to me.




 
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Old Feb 10, 2017 | 09:01 AM
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The smog techs here are told to look for the name "Garrett" on the compressor housing.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2017 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by andym
The smog techs here are told to look for the name "Garrett" on the compressor housing.
I know people love CA, but for the life of me I cannot figure it out...

A 38R will get the job done just fine, the KC38R is a better choice, but only if it will not land you in jail.

Keep us posted on what you decide to do and how the projects come along. I am very interested to see pictures and thoughts on your progress.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2017 | 02:32 PM
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A 38R will get the job done just fine, the KC38R is a better choice, but only if it will not land you in jail.
I dunno anything about the KC (and don't have time to search...ok, I don't WANNA search, LOL), so why do you like it over the 38R?

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Old Feb 10, 2017 | 03:10 PM
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I dunno anything about the KC (and don't have time to search...ok, I don't WANNA search, LOL), so why do you like it over the 38R?

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Based on the research I have done, which there is not a lot of information out there on the KC38R yet, it is a great alternative to the Garrett 38R.

It is rebuild-able, but one has not failed as of yet, this is coming from both Corey at CNC and KC turbos. It comes with a billet wheel, a .84 or 1.0 housing and high flow outlet. I see it as a beefed up 38R that someone took the time to design, balance and ship to me as a drop in alternative.

I know the 38R has a proven track record, but just because something has "always been done that way" does not mean it is the best way to get the job done as of today. I plan to get a KC38R when it comes my turn to remove the stock turbo and have complete confidence that it will be a great product.

The 38R is right under $1250 from RiffRaff and the KC38R is right under $1500, so the price is comparable in my opinion. Add a billet wheel on the 38R, and they are just about dead even.

Again, the information available to us as consumers is next to nothing because it is a new design. There are some FTE members that are running them, and some second hand experiences with FTE members seeing them in other owners trucks and liking what they see.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2017 | 04:27 PM
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Having done some research on billet wheels for the 38R, none seem to work as well as the wheel that comes with the 38R. They may be quieter, but lack the boost off idle and mid range. Thus, I'm leaving the "stock" wheel in my 38R.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2017 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by andym
The smog techs here are told to look for the name "Garrett" on the compressor housing.
Good information to know. Thanks! I have not had a problem yet as I've asked my smog station before any major visual modifications I've done (intake and exhaust) to make sure that I am in compliance with their requirements. They have been very up front about what their requirements are. I have been to many shops that won't share any of their "insider" information and would actually prefer you to fail so you have to pay them more money (obviously I have not gone back to those).

I would not have considered clearing a turbo replacement with my smog station. I will have to check with them when the time comes although the 38R is no slouch and I would have 'Garrett' stamped on the housing to cover my bases.

That conversation would NOT go well with my wife..."honey, you know the car part I bought for $1500? Well...I just failed the smog check because of it and I have to take it off this weekend." I would be sleeping in the garage under the bench where that KC38R was sitting...and that would be the best case scenario!
 
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Old Feb 13, 2017 | 10:38 AM
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The fact that "Garrett" is cast into the housing of the the 38R is exactly why I'm going that route.

If it failed, you could just swap the old turbo back on for the test. It's only every 2 years and it's not THAT much work to swap turbos.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2017 | 11:03 AM
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I know people love CA, but for the life of me I cannot figure it out...

A 38R will get the job done just fine, the KC38R is a better choice, but only if it will not land you in jail.

Keep us posted on what you decide to do and how the projects come along. I am very interested to see pictures and thoughts on your progress.
California is the most populated state in the nation, so maybe we know something you don't.

I've decided to go all-in and I'm placing the order this week. Just waiting on some financial stuff to settle. Injectors, turbo, the works. About $6100 in parts. Once I have everything back together, I can sell my Mini which will pay for the JW trans.

I will keep you all informed, and I probably will have a ton of questions. Hopefully I will have the smarts to ask the right ones.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2017 | 04:27 PM
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Old Feb 13, 2017 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by andym
California is the most populated state in the nation, so maybe we know something you don't.

I've decided to go all-in and I'm placing the order this week. Just waiting on some financial stuff to settle. Injectors, turbo, the works. About $6100 in parts. Once I have everything back together, I can sell my Mini which will pay for the JW trans.

I will keep you all informed, and I probably will have a ton of questions. Hopefully I will have the smarts to ask the right ones.
Maybe you guys do know something I don't, never mind, I am positive you know a lot of things I don't. I am just stubborn though.

Mini? Like a Mini car? It doesn't happen to be an antique from the 60's or so like the one in the picture below does it?





My wife had one of those when we were stationed in England and it was a blast to drive. 998cc engine, the suspension was pretty much the body welded to the frame and you sat about 8 inches off the ground. It was incredibly nibble going around a round about.

I am excited for you to get all of the goodies for your truck installed and fire it up the first time for a test ride. I even told my wife that you will not stop smiling for a month.

Keep us informed with how things go and if you need advice along the way.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2017 | 06:21 PM
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Nope, it looks like this:



It's an 08 with a factory turbo. Puts out about 170 hp. It corners, accelerates, and brakes like a roller coaster. Third gear is my favorite - it gives the turbo enough time to spool up and pull hard before you have to shift again.

I don't know how I haven't gotten a ticket in it yet. It's so much fun to drive.

You can count on being kept informed on my work with the truck.
 
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Not to dig up an older thread but what injectors did you end up going with?
 
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