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Old Jan 12, 2017 | 11:57 AM
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F450 TPMS experiment?

Could someone with a F450 and the FORScan try enabling the TPMS system to see what it does? If it comes up and just says it cannot find the sensors, maybe we could just fine sensors that fit the wheels (or use external ones) and get TPMS.

For the code, see line 32 in the spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...s1s/edit#gid=0

I can do this in a couple of months when I get my truck if nobody can try this by then.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2017 | 12:17 PM
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My adapter should be here Friday and I have the software ready to go. I would love to try this for you. I've been wanting to try this myself. I also would like to do the same thing with my trailer tpms.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2017 | 01:20 PM
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Very interested in this as well. No truck yet so all I can do is follow. Thanks!
 
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Old Jan 12, 2017 | 03:03 PM
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Bill, if you can enable it through Forscan, you could always use the standard sensors and mount them the old fashioned way. On the inside banded to the inner wheel.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2017 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Karl4Cat
Bill, if you can enable it through Forscan, you could always use the standard sensors and mount them the old fashioned way. On the inside banded to the inner wheel.
My plan exactly. That's why I want someone to run the experiment. I was excited to see the TPMS on/off discovery in the FORScan spreadsheet. I'm sure looking forward to the results!
 
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Old Jan 12, 2017 | 03:11 PM
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I know the guys with trailer wheels that weren't compatible with the sensors were able to do this successfully. I hope it works for you as well...
 
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Old Jan 12, 2017 | 05:12 PM
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Bill, if you can enable it through Forscan, you could always use the standard sensors and mount them the old fashioned way. On the inside banded to the inner wheel.
Rodney or Bill or whomever may know the answer:

Have we ever gotten a definitive explanation of why the TPMS is missing from the 450? I've heard several theories such as wheel incompatibility and pressure range (although I believe this one has been disproved). I'm just curious if we know for sure what is driving the issue.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2017 | 05:14 PM
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I know the guys with trailer wheels that weren't compatible with the sensors were able to do this successfully. I hope it works for you as well...
Rodney, As for trailer wheel incompatibility, was the problem with valve stem hole size or the aluminum wheel or something else?
 
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Old Jan 12, 2017 | 05:14 PM
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Wheel incompatibility is Ford's official response for the 450.

On the trailer wheels, it's the hole diameter but it's been reported that you can change out the stems on the sensors and that's not an issue.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2017 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by STOF-FORD
Rodney or Bill or whomever may know the answer:

Have we ever gotten a definitive explanation of why the TPMS is missing from the 450? I've heard several theories such as wheel incompatibility and pressure range (although I believe this one has been disproved). I'm just curious if we know for sure what is driving the issue.
Per Ford, it's because they do not have sensors compatible with the 19.5" wheel. I know I have the reference for this somewhere, give me a bit to find it and I'll follow-up.

On Edit: Rodney beat me to it...I'll still try to find that reference...bugging me now.

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Old Jan 12, 2017 | 05:26 PM
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Thanks guys. It seems no matter how you slice it, we just keep coming back to the 19.5 wheel not being helpful.
 
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My plan exactly. That's why I want someone to run the experiment. I was excited to see the TPMS on/off discovery in the FORScan spreadsheet. I'm sure looking forward to the results!
If it turns out that, with FORScan, truck TPMS can be enabled or turned on in a 450, do we know if there is another setting to tell the system if you have four wheels or six? I'm assuming that functionality must exist since TPMS is available for both SRW and DRW F350s. I'm just wondering if it must be set with the software, or if the user interface in the instrument cluster lets you do it.
 
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Originally Posted by STOF-FORD
Thanks guys. It seems no matter how you slice it, we just keep coming back to the 19.5 wheel not being helpful.

You can get away with saying that because you have a 450 on order Steve. I'd be crucified.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2017 | 05:43 PM
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You can get away with saying that because you have a 450 on order Steve. I'd be crucified.
But everything I know, I learned from you!
 
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Old Jan 12, 2017 | 05:48 PM
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But everything I know, I learned from you!

The 450 club is going to revoke your membership!
 
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