Notices
2017 - 2022 Super Duty The 2017-2022 Ford F250, F350, F450, F550 & F600 Super Duty Pickup and Chassis Cab
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

Level it the right way!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 7, 2017 | 08:25 PM
  #16  
347Flatty's Avatar
347Flatty
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 286
Likes: 0
From: Bothell Wa
Originally Posted by Pvincentt
I looked up the BDS site and the "ball joint alignment cams" look exactly like the alignment caster bushings.

so the only thing I don't have is a track bar bracket....sounds like I need that too.
Exactly! I did the same, they are just using different terms to confuse us but yes both the bushings we mentioned and the ball joint cams are in fact the same part. Some kits have them included.

I wonder if anyone can comment on their alignment results after the level was completed and if re-alignment is needed?
 
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2017 | 08:32 PM
  #17  
Ricohman's Avatar
Ricohman
Posting Guru
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,216
Likes: 7
Originally Posted by ROADRUNNER1
This is the only Ford approved way to level your truck.



Exactly.
As soon as you load up a "leveled" truck its nose is in the air like a 50's lead sled.
 
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2017 | 08:51 PM
  #18  
347Flatty's Avatar
347Flatty
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 286
Likes: 0
From: Bothell Wa
As soon as you load up a "leveled" truck its nose is in the air like a 50's lead sled.
Anybody know how much the f350's drop with various loads or can post a link where it's discussed? All winter I have a sled deck and sled on the back which is about 900-1500 lbs. I would like to level my truck when it comes in, but I may need to load it up first to check the heights.
 
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2017 | 08:55 PM
  #19  
Pvincentt's Avatar
Pvincentt
Junior User
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 54
Likes: 0
I think my truck will do just fine leveled....I pull a 12 ft trailer with maybe a pallet of tile, wood or laminate flooring till I get to the job and unload it, cant even feel it behind me.....I haul my cow in ounces home from the store.lol
 
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2017 | 10:21 PM
  #20  
kylant's Avatar
kylant
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 1,613
Likes: 156
caster bushings and ball joint cams are the same thing

i have a ready lift on order, it should have been delivered yesterday, but the weather has delayed that. I am debating on a track bar relocation bracket or an adjustable track bar when they are available.

I have leveled/lifted my trucks in the past with full Carli or Thuren kits, I think on this truck I am going the simple route.
 
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2017 | 10:23 PM
  #21  
kylant's Avatar
kylant
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 1,613
Likes: 156
Originally Posted by ROADRUNNER1
This is the only Ford approved way to level your truck.
Originally Posted by Ricohman
Exactly.
As soon as you load up a "leveled" truck its nose is in the air like a 50's lead sled.
whatever
 
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2017 | 10:30 AM
  #22  
Ricohman's Avatar
Ricohman
Posting Guru
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,216
Likes: 7
Originally Posted by 347Flatty
Anybody know how much the f350's drop with various loads or can post a link where it's discussed? All winter I have a sled deck and sled on the back which is about 900-1500 lbs. I would like to level my truck when it comes in, but I may need to load it up first to check the heights.
Leave it the way it is and it will squat down some with a sled and deck.
The engineers designed the ride height this way for that very reason.
And you won't have misadjusted headlights blinding oncoming drivers.
 
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2017 | 11:12 AM
  #23  
jdunk54nl's Avatar
jdunk54nl
Elder User
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 706
Likes: 6
Can we not get into the kit level vs put a load on it to level debate. That isn't the point of this thread. Let's assume the people reading this thread know they are going to buy a kit to level the truck and want to level it with a kit the right way the first time. This is the same thing as diesel vs gas debate. It all has a purpose. A lot of people don't need a diesel but they wanted it so they got it, same with a level. People want it so let's make sure it is done right.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-3

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-5

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-9

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Jan 8, 2017 | 11:29 AM
  #24  
nathan_2017's Avatar
nathan_2017
Junior User
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 71
Likes: 3
Originally Posted by jdunk54nl
Can we not get into the kit level vs put a load on it to level debate. That isn't the point of this thread. Let's assume the people reading this thread know they are going to buy a kit to level the truck and want to level it with a kit the right way the first time. This is the same thing as diesel vs gas debate. It all has a purpose. A lot of people don't need a diesel but they wanted it so they got it, same with a level. People want it so let's make sure it is done right.
I agree.

I am not certain I will level mine, however this thread seems like a great resource (if it stays on topic) for people who would like to level.

If you do not believe in leveling, don't post in this thread or start a new thread about the reasons not to level. If someone wants to level their truck it's their truck to do so.
 
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2017 | 12:14 PM
  #25  
mjf6175's Avatar
mjf6175
Cross-Country
5 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 55
Likes: 6
From: NJ
Very good thread. I have been researching endlessly (like others here) the various leveling kits. Not surprisingly you find each manufacturer trying to distinguish themselves from their competitors. If you go back through this thread you will find telling comments made by tech's from the various companies. It is the comment "REQUIRED" as in they will say "its not required". Caster bushings "required"? Answer..."well not really, BUT"; track bar drop bracket required? Answer "well not really, BUT"; Shock extension brackets or the FOX 2.0 shocks which are longer?.....Answer "well not really, BUT".

I took this all to mean that if the tech was installing the kit on HIS truck he would do it. Better yet I came to the conclusion that if it is MY truck I am.

Go to this link and watch the video on installing a ReadyLift 2.5" level on a '17. It is by Stage3 Motorsports:

In that video there are some parts used that even in some of the ReadyLift kits on their web site are not included in the kit. Below is all the parts they used in the video:
1) 2.5 inch spacer
2) Sway Bar drop bracket
3) Brake Line drop bracket
4) Bump Stop drop bracket
5) Shock extensions
6) No mention of a track bar bracket or the caster bushings

So after all the reading I came to the conclusion that there is not an all in one kit FOR ME. I plan on getting all the items listed above from ready lift BUT with the difference of adding: 1) a track bar bracket (or a longer track bar if available); 2) caster bushings; 3) the longer Fox 2.0's in place of the shock extensions Is it overkill? Maybe, because you get the answer "its not required". But if I am buyng a new '17 F350 I want to do the leveling the best way I can.
 
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2017 | 12:35 PM
  #26  
Pvincentt's Avatar
Pvincentt
Junior User
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 54
Likes: 0
That's pretty much the conclusion I came to...except I'm going with the shock extension brackets.... the shocks are brand new and ride fine to me...I can always replace later and just remove the extension bracket.

My kit was supposed to be installed Tuesday but ill have to reschedule as my track bar bracket will be here tomorrow but the caster bushings wont be in till sometime Tuesday. I'm sure maybe Wednesday or Thursday they'll be able to do it. I'll take before and after pics.
 
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2017 | 12:42 PM
  #27  
347Flatty's Avatar
347Flatty
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 286
Likes: 0
From: Bothell Wa
Originally Posted by jdunk54nl
Can we not get into the kit level vs put a load on it to level debate. That isn't the point of this thread. Let's assume the people reading this thread know they are going to buy a kit to level the truck and want to level it with a kit the right way the first time. This is the same thing as diesel vs gas debate. It all has a purpose. A lot of people don't need a diesel but they wanted it so they got it, same with a level. People want it so let's make sure it is done right.
I agree! Sorry for derailing my own thread. Haha

Great video find mjf! As far as the shocks vs brackets go, from the kit prices (correct me if I'm wrong) it looks like the ready lift kit with extensions is $249 and the bds with new fox shocks is $333. So for an extra $84 you get 4 new fox shocks. Seems like a deal.
 
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2017 | 12:53 PM
  #28  
DeputyDiesel's Avatar
DeputyDiesel
Tuned
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 389
Likes: 24
Does the 2in fabtech kit come with castor bushings? The photo of the kits shows lots of parts and I can't tell. I know it comes with brake line extenders and shock extenders. My plan is to ditch the shock extenders and run some longer rancho 7000mt's.
 
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2017 | 01:08 PM
  #29  
mjf6175's Avatar
mjf6175
Cross-Country
5 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 55
Likes: 6
From: NJ
Originally Posted by DeputyDiesel
Does the 2in fabtech kit come with castor bushings? The photo of the kits shows lots of parts and I can't tell. I know it comes with brake line extenders and shock extenders. My plan is to ditch the shock extenders and run some longer rancho 7000mt's.

If you check their installation instructions for their 2" kit there is no mention of caster bushings or any listed in the parts list.
 
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2017 | 01:13 PM
  #30  
mjf6175's Avatar
mjf6175
Cross-Country
5 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 55
Likes: 6
From: NJ
Originally Posted by Pvincentt
That's pretty much the conclusion I came to...except I'm going with the shock extension brackets.... the shocks are brand new and ride fine to me...I can always replace later and just remove the extension bracket.

My kit was supposed to be installed Tuesday but ill have to reschedule as my track bar bracket will be here tomorrow but the caster bushings wont be in till sometime Tuesday. I'm sure maybe Wednesday or Thursday they'll be able to do it. I'll take before and after pics.
Yes, please post pics and how the install went. Also how the alignment worked out with the caster bushings. Except for the shocks, you are doing exactly what I plan to do as well.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:37 AM.

story-0
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-2
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-4
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE