Something I thought was cool I discovered today. The tilt sensor works well! The trailer I borrow for the scissor lift rentals has a sticky coupler and if you use the trailer jack to put pressure against the ball it will release. Well it was acting up more than usual today and it jacked the back of my truck up maybe just a few inches past stock height and the alarm started going off. I knew it had a tilt sensor on this alarm but never experienced it and now realize it's very sensitive, if someone tries to jack up the truck. Good to know, although I run wheel locks it's nice to have additional peace of mind.... the neighbors Chevy truck accross the street had wheels stolen a couple years ago.

 

the 15+ f150s take a bit more time to get into. i've used two methods to get into them. Without much practice they were both under a minute.
As for the 17 SD, i'm sure with the updated alarm systems the alarm would go off. But I don't recall any wild changes to how they built the door. They moved a couple components over a bit. I'll have to check when I get to work if we have the updated info printed yet on the 17s.


EpicCowlick-
Yes a thief can gain entry without keys or fob but it would take a lot longer to start one without the fob. Back when I used to do a lot of remote start installs, you could see how easily someone could bypass the need for a key. Now with the smart keys (i haven't messed with any of these cars) I imagine its a much more challenging task.

 

Thanks. I hear these stories of how easy it is to brake into a vehicle and I get that. The lock and handles are mechanically connected and someone with some experience can pull the right lever and get in. I'm interested to hear how things go from there. The alarm should be going off and there's supposed to be no way to start the truck without the fob or some kind of electronic wizardry.

 

Don't leave your vehicle unlocked in yoyr driveway.
Police just notified our neighborhood (great part of Orlando, FL) 80% of "car break ins" are unlocked vehicles! Groups of kids at night on bikes roaming around trying door handles on every car to find one unlocked.
GPS, phone chargers, sun glasses, etc. All easy to take.

 

What are you going to do in Ouray? Cool place for sure!

 

As far as theft is concerned, is it better to have the traditional key or the newer push button setup?

 

Sorry for the delay in responding. I've been checking at work in our books as well as all the little updates they send us, but we don't have unlock info of the 2017 superduty trucks yet. Obviously it can be done, I' just not sure which method is the quickest or info about the alarm.

As to push button vs traditional key. Most push button cars have a backup key inside the fob for unlocking the door in the event of a power failure. So entry wise there isn't a lot of difference. Actually being able to start the car is harder with the push button (assuming you aren't one of those, leave the backup fob in the car people)

 

Last truck I had had the push button start. I hated it to start with but grew to love it. Was very nice to walk up to the vehicle with the fob, grab the handle and it unlocked. So I ordered my new truck with all available a la carte Lariat Ultimate components but without the Lariat Ultimate pkg because I wanted a key. I wanted a key because I'm concerned that the button or fob may fail and I wouldn't have a way to crank the vehicle. Plus I'm a runner and don't like running with a key so a lot of times with my truck before the last I would lock my key in the truck and use the keypad to get in. It was nearly impossible to do this with the keyless start.

Other things I missed out on and am somewhat regretful about are heated steering wheel (never thought I would like or use this, and kinda feel like a wuss because I liked it, but I did use it quite a bit in my last truck). The auto high/low beams were also nice. There are other components of the Lariat Ultimate Package, but I don't miss them for example the ambient lighting.

Would really like to have the quad beam headlights as well and the BLIS, but just couldn't bring myself to pay $1080 just for lights. Also, the $570 for the BLIS was hard to justify especially since I now have bigger mirrors and can see the blind spots. The BLIS system on my F150 was essentially useless because the little dot in the upper corner of the light was essentially invisible and the mirrors were small. The light or notification should be larger. I figured with the Super Duty and the larger mirrors I didn't need it. One part of the BLIS I do miss is the cross-traffic alert. That was especially nice when backing out of a parking space and other vehicles were coming from the sides and I couldn't see them.

In the end I guess I can and must walk away knowing that the truck I would have ordered if money was no object would have stickered for just over $72K and the one I ordered and purchased stickered for just under $68K.

 

I think that part of what has made the Super Duty a good truck to steal is simply that the truck was relatively unchanged from 1999-2016 so there is a good market for the parts that are stolen. I would think just on economic principles alone that the 2017 would be better in that regard because there is just less of a market for the parts. Hopefully, there is enough different between the 2015 F150 and the 2017 Super Duty to negate any part swapping, Ha!

 

F2502011, it is incredibly simple to lock your keyless fob in the truck with the Intelligent key. Just toss the fob in the truck and hit the 7-8 + 9-0 keys on the keypad. Doors all lock. Unlock with the keypad code. Not sure why you think this is impossible.

 

I'm a statistic! My 2015 F250 Platinum was stolen at the River Walk in San Antonio in Oct 2016. Recovered 5 days later in a high speed chase off roading through the desert picking up illegals crossing the border. This thread has been great to read as I posed the question earlier today in my own thread asking for ideas on anti-theft for the 2017 350 that's coming soon to my driveway. Thanks for the ideas. We've tossed around a kill switch and/or gps tracker with the monthly fee.

 

F2502011...Quote: "Plus I'm a runner and don't like running with a key so a lot of times with my truck before the last I would lock my key in the truck and use the keypad to get in. It was nearly impossible to do this with the keyless start." What the heck are you saying here?? I've been locking my keys in my truck with the key since 2011....and also on my new '17 since I took delivery. Lock it with the key pad and unlock it with the key pad. Has NOTHING to do with having a key or having the "Keyless" fob. Works the same way. You can even leave it running if you want....with the key fob in the truck or in your pocket.

 

Remember folks the 350 is based off most of the 150 components so lessons learned breaking into 150 will likely apply. Same control modules and all.

It's new to Super Duty but not to Ford production lines.

Will the alarm still be armed if you use the manual key on these new trucks?

 

The F-150 cab and electronics are mostly shared. Obviously, some differences - you can't steal the diesel's instrument cluster and put it in an F-150. The chassis, bed, hood, fenders, bumpers, lights, etc...are a unique market for now.

Manual key lock does not arm nor disarm alarm. If you unlock with the key, you have about 30 seconds to start the vehicle before the alarm sounds.

 

I don't understand what his concern is either, Ken (see my post above). In my opinion, having the Ford door keypad is an awesome feature and one I would seriously miss for this very purpose of locking your keys in your vehicle while biking, running, etc.

On models with the Intelligent Key, the system senses the location of the key. If it is out of the vehicle, you can lock with the door button, the lock thumb pad on the handle, the fob itself, or the code pad. However, if the fob is inside the vehicle, the only way you can lock the vehicle is with the code pad. Once the code pad is used to lock the vehicle with the fob inside, the touch - sensitive handles are disabled, since the key would be in range. (Unless you use the second fob to unlock). Very clever on Ford's part, and no other vehicle at any price range offers this feature.