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Old Nov 25, 2016 | 12:43 PM
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E4OD issues

A buddy of mine stopped by today because his tranny is acting weird. 89 7.3 with banks turbo auto. He can drive it forward, but it won't shift into reverse or neutral. The shifter and linkage moves and you can feel the detent for each gear position, it just stays in forward gear. Park engages but there's still a pull on the engine, and if you try to rev it up in park it's definitely still in gear. I guess it shifts normal except it won't shift into o/d. Anyone have any ideas. I told him to drop the pan and take a look, but I guess he doesn't really know what he's doing. I'm just looking for some hints or someone who's experienced this so I can lead him in a direction or give me a head start if I can help him out.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2016 | 12:59 PM
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Drop the trans and tear it down or replace it. This one is done. The forward clutch has failed and welded itself together.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2016 | 04:38 PM
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Yeah that's what I told him. Truck has an unknown number of miles on it. He's gonna be unhappy about this ha.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2016 | 08:13 PM
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Before condemning, you may want to drop the pan and verify that the manual valve is still hooked up to the shift lever.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2016 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Lead Head
Before condemning, you may want to drop the pan and verify that the manual valve is still hooked up to the shift lever.
That's a waste of time and effort. See below:

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The shifter and linkage moves and you can feel the detent for each gear position, it just stays in forward gear. Park engages but there's still a pull on the engine, and if you try to rev it up in park it's definitely still in gear. I guess it shifts normal except it won't shift into o/d.
If it shifts in and out of park, and then down to drive, the linkage is all intact.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2016 | 07:56 AM
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Sorry, that's not correct. The manual valve is actuated by a little lever and pin coming off the shift linkage. The detent and park pawl mechanism is completely seperate and will still function mormally even if the manual valve is completely missing.

If somone was in the transmission before, it's entirely possible that they didn't hook the manual valve back up to the lever correctly.

Maybe your time is super valuable and worth $500/hr, but spending 10 minutes to drop a pan is worth it to me before condeming a $1500 transmission.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2016 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Lead Head
Sorry, that's not correct. The manual valve is actuated by a little lever and pin coming off the shift linkage. The detent and park pawl mechanism is completely seperate and will still function mormally even if the manual valve is completely missing.

If somone was in the transmission before, it's entirely possible that they didn't hook the manual valve back up to the lever correctly.

Maybe your time is super valuable and worth $500/hr, but spending 10 minutes to drop a pan is worth it to me before condeming a $1500 transmission.

Simple test.


Place gear selector in reverse.


If truck gos forward it is the manual valve.


If engine bogs down it is the clutch pack.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2016 | 11:15 AM
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Thanks for the replies guys. He's afraid to look at it I guess, says the only way an auto works is because there are wizards inside. I'm gonna have him bring it over and pay me half what the tranny shop is gonna charge him!
 
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