1967 - 1972 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Bumpsides Ford Truck

Lower steering column bearings

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 11-03-2016, 07:44 PM
idealtrucks's Avatar
idealtrucks
idealtrucks is offline
Laughing Gas
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: S/W Virginia
Posts: 1,218
Received 27 Likes on 21 Posts
Lower steering column bearings

Is it possible for a string column to be too bad to rebuild? I have a power steering column i was planning on using, but bearings are all shot in it. I know that the uppers can be changed, but I'm not sure about the bottoms. The shaft is very rusty, but doesn't appear to be worn. When I took it apart, the pieces of what was left just fell out. What I can assume is the race in the end of the tube looks a little worn
 
  #2  
Old 11-03-2016, 08:22 PM
ultraranger's Avatar
ultraranger
ultraranger is offline
Lead Driver
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Camden, Arkansas
Posts: 6,398
Likes: 0
Received 26 Likes on 23 Posts
Hard to say for sure but, it looks like to me the open end of the column tube has been sawing on the steering shaft (looks like there's a rusty groove present in it).

If this is so, that's usually an indication that either the metal cab mounts are rusted/rusting out or, that the rubber cab mounts are old and compressed/collapsed.

If either of these conditions are present, it'll pitch the cab. If the front cab mounts are rusted or the rubber mounts compressed, it'll pitch the front end of the cab downward. Since the column tube attaches to the dash and the engine side of the firewall, this will put a downward force and strain on the steering shaft. This will place a bind on the lower column bearing and eventually chew it up and all of the lower bearing will simply disentegrate, fall out and disappear. With nothing left to keep the steering shaft centered in the column tube, the open end of the tube will start gnawing on the steering shaft.

If the rear cab mounts are bad, the back end of the cab will drop down and the forward end of the cab will be pitched upwards, causing the column tube to do the same thing to the bearing and steering shaft, only, the tube will be sawing on the underside of the steering shaft.

This is the result of compressed rear rubber cab mounts to the old fixed column steering shaft (where the awl is pointing) that used to be on my '69 F100.

Groove cut into steering shaft. A good portion of the clamp and nearly half the head of the bolt and the hex of the nut were worn away where they had been dragging around against the inner portion of the column tube, at the open end of the tube. The stress of the cab being out of alignment (caused by the rubber cab mounts) destroyed the (raggedy) rag joint.

 
  #3  
Old 11-03-2016, 09:09 PM
NumberDummy's Avatar
NumberDummy
NumberDummy is offline
Ford Parts Specialist

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Simi Valley, CA
Posts: 88,826
Received 648 Likes on 543 Posts
Originally Posted by idealtrucks
Is it possible for a steering column to be too bad to rebuild? I have a power steering column i was planning on using, but bearings are all shot in it. I know that the uppers can be changed, but I'm not sure about the bottoms.
What year is the steering column? If it's from a 1967 thru 1973 F100/250 2WD, the upper and lower bearings (C3DZ-3517-A) are the same and are available from Ford.

The lower steering column bearing retainer (C5TZ-3D681-A) is reproduced

This bearing was also used on some 1961/66's, 1974/79's, misc Ford/Merc Passenger Cars like 1965/66 Mustang's.
 
  #4  
Old 11-04-2016, 05:26 PM
idealtrucks's Avatar
idealtrucks
idealtrucks is offline
Laughing Gas
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: S/W Virginia
Posts: 1,218
Received 27 Likes on 21 Posts
It appears to be a 71 or 72 column. I've attached some pictures of what came out and the end of the column tube. From the pics, do you think it would be alright to rebuild? I'm not sure what the pieces are that I'm looking at, in relation to the part numbers listed above. I know the retainer is the clamp on the end.
 
  #5  
Old 11-04-2016, 05:42 PM
NumberDummy's Avatar
NumberDummy
NumberDummy is offline
Ford Parts Specialist

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Simi Valley, CA
Posts: 88,826
Received 648 Likes on 543 Posts
The white piece is the remains of B1AZ-3518-A .. Upper or Lower Steering Column Bearing Nylon Sleeve

Don't recognize the other parts.

Pic of steering column: 1965/72 F100/250 2WD & 1967/72 F350.

Bearings shown as 3517 .. sleeves shown as 3518
 
Attached Images  

Last edited by NumberDummy; 11-07-2016 at 04:03 PM.
  #6  
Old 11-04-2016, 06:08 PM
idealtrucks's Avatar
idealtrucks
idealtrucks is offline
Laughing Gas
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: S/W Virginia
Posts: 1,218
Received 27 Likes on 21 Posts
What is part 3510?
 
  #7  
Old 11-04-2016, 06:15 PM
NumberDummy's Avatar
NumberDummy
NumberDummy is offline
Ford Parts Specialist

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Simi Valley, CA
Posts: 88,826
Received 648 Likes on 543 Posts
Originally Posted by idealtrucks
What is part 3510?
3510 = Retainer-Steering Column Lower Bearing Seal. Two different types.
 
  #8  
Old 11-04-2016, 07:25 PM
JEFFFAFA's Avatar
JEFFFAFA
JEFFFAFA is offline
Hotshot
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Phoenix, Az.
Posts: 14,196
Received 169 Likes on 149 Posts
I think the center piece is part of the 3517. The piece on the right is the 3510.
*
edit
*
Can't be a 3510. Both choices are listed as thicker than the one in the pic. So the center and right pieces in the pick have to be both halves of the 3517 bearing.
 
  #9  
Old 11-07-2016, 09:18 AM
idealtrucks's Avatar
idealtrucks
idealtrucks is offline
Laughing Gas
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: S/W Virginia
Posts: 1,218
Received 27 Likes on 21 Posts
What do you think the piece on the left is?
 
  #10  
Old 11-07-2016, 03:04 PM
JEFFFAFA's Avatar
JEFFFAFA
JEFFFAFA is offline
Hotshot
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Phoenix, Az.
Posts: 14,196
Received 169 Likes on 149 Posts
Originally Posted by idealtrucks
What do you think the piece on the left is?
Well, the only thing left is the 3510. But the way they describe it doesn't sound right. Here is how the 3510 is listed for a Bump:


65/69 F100/250 (4X2), 65/69 F350 before ser #D96,001, ALL, D0TZ3510A.(replaced C5TZ3510A) Replaced by D0TZ3510B.
69/72 F100/250 (4X2), 69/72 F350 after ser #D96,001, also D0TZ3510B when used with 3 speed manual-manual steering, auto trans-manual steering, 4 speed -manual or P/S.
D0TZ3510B is 1 5/16" O.D. X 3/8" thick.
*
69/72 F100/250 (4X2) , 69/72 F350 after ser #D96,001, C9TZ3510A. When used with P/S with 3 speed or A/T.
C9TZ3510A is 1 5/16" O.D. X 1/2" thick. This one has 2 tapped holes.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
R. Tovar
1967 - 1972 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
18
11-19-2014 06:28 PM
shack
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
5
03-19-2009 12:14 PM
Customcab
1961 - 1966 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
4
11-21-2008 01:26 PM
Seifferlein
1967 - 1972 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
5
08-11-2005 08:53 PM
MAHinton
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
6
02-07-2005 01:47 AM



Quick Reply: Lower steering column bearings



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:07 PM.