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Old 11-02-2016, 01:31 PM
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460 Oil Pan Removal

In a '95 F250 4x4 7.5L, is it possible to remove the oil pan without removing the engine? It looks a little tight in the front, but the rest looks manageable. I didn't know if I could maybe drop it down enough to remove the pickup tube or pump, and slide the pan out. Anyone do this before? Thanks
 
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It's not possible to get it out without lifting the engine at r he very least. Whether or not you can get it high enough without removing trans is another story.
 
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Old 11-02-2016, 04:21 PM
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Thanks, I was just curious if anyone had attempted it. I'll already have the trans removed...figured it may be a good time to do it. Shouldn't be hard to lift the engine unless it has to come up so far that it interferes with something else. The bottom end is getting a little noisy...it's not bad but I figure it'll only get worse. I thought if I could get the pan off I could pull a rod cap or two and check things out.
 
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Never tried lifting it without the tranny in place.
With it, you have to remove the intake because it hits the firewall/cowl before the engine is high enough to get the pan past the pickup.


It really is easier to pull the engine.
 
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Well damn, if you have the trans already removed then it's easy.
 
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It looks like I've got about 3 or 4 inches of clearance between the lower intake and the firewall. I have no idea if that will be enough. I'm thinking if I can drop the pan enough to reach in there and remove the pickup tube, I may be able to slide the pan out.
 
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And then you have to put the tube and two bolts and a nut *back* in the pan and re attach everything oil tight without disturbing the pan gasket.

There is an EPIC thread by Quakerj in the Bullnose forum where he swears he is going to burn the truck to the ground before he ever tries to replace a 460 pan gasket *in the truck* again.

But we are all waiting to be entertained.
 
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Old 11-02-2016, 06:55 PM
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You're going to need a hoist anyhow.
Need to remove the engine mounts anyhow.
I assume the exhaust is already out if you've pulled the tranny.

Why?
​​​​​​​Why struggle and suffer needlessly???
 
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Old 11-02-2016, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk

Why?
​​​​​​​Why struggle and suffer needlessly???
Because it needs rod bearings, presumably. Did it on an old truck with some rod noise and got several more years out of it. Just thought if it were moderately easy I'd give it a shot on this one.
 
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Old 11-02-2016, 09:18 PM
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You're right...might as well pull it. I just went out and took a serious look at it. Front clearance is what's gonna kill the deal. Should have looked closer before posting...sorry to bother you guys.
 
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No bother, were just trying to explain that if you're 95% there it makes very little sense to try and do this on your back with poor lighting and axle, crossmember, springs, etc in your way.

A masochistic contortionist would have a hard time.
 
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Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk
No bother, were just trying to explain that if you're 95% there it makes very little sense to try and do this on your back with poor lighting and axle, crossmember, springs, etc in your way.

A masochistic contortionist would have a hard time.

Pull it if you can. I didn't have a cherry picker or stand to use so I didn't have much of a choice. I did a rear main seal. It can out fine
 
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Pull it if you can. I didn't have a cherry picker or stand to use so I didn't have much of a choice. I did a rear main seal. It came out fine bUT it would've been way easier if I could've pulled the motor. The biggest pain in the *** was getting the oil pump rod seated back in the bottom of the distributor. I had to use an endo cam to make sure it was in right before I put the oil pan back on and dropped the motor back down. Otherwise you just have to hope that it's in there. You would know until you fire it back up and see in you have oil pressure, because you can't see the hole it goes in, you have to do it bu feel like your some kind of ****ing jedi or ray charles.
 
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Old 05-18-2017, 02:26 PM
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I've got too many other projects to tackle it right now. I'm reasonably convinced that it's piston slap, anyway. Only seems to do it at cold idle, much like a 5.4. I'm not really worried about it. It's got 376K miles on it. I was hoping for half a million, but if it craters today I can't complain.
 
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I've done it a few times but its not easy. Unbolt the fan shroud and motor mounts and jack the engine up as high as possible, remove the pan bolts and lower the pan, then reach through the side and unbolt the oil pump and sump tube. Its far easier with the engine out of the truck but it is possible to do it in the vehicle.
 
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