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Old Sep 30, 2016 | 06:51 AM
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Here is a list of useful PIDs, as well as their minimums and maximums: (EBP is now 55)





Congratulations on getting it going! I'm sorry I missed the party there.

The latest thread on PIDs with details is here [LINK].
 
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Old Sep 30, 2016 | 09:06 PM
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**** UPDATE *****

ok so now that I am using this Torque Pro app. I noticed that I have another problem, as a matter of fact I was just stranded at dinner. well not really but had to sit there 45 minutes and she finally started.

I unplugged the ICP and it did not start but was oily.

I thought my fuel pressure regulator was clogged up so I drained it

Then I noticed what seems to be an issue.

MY FUEL PRESSURE read 0 PSI.
I was able to drive it back home once started about 10 miles.

ok so what are the steps to diagnose and fix this issue? I hope its not a weak fuel pump but I am prepared if it is.

I am going to try the following to see if it fixes my issue

http://www.fordtruckzone.com/threads...iesels.656226/



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Old Sep 30, 2016 | 09:51 PM
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How are you reading fuel pressure? Do you have a gauge?
 
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Old Sep 30, 2016 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bigb56
How are you reading fuel pressure? Do you have a gauge?
Reading the fuel pressure using the Torque Pro app.
Here is a screens hot of my values.


 
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Old Sep 30, 2016 | 10:09 PM
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OK you can't read fuel pressure on the 7.3 with any scanner, there is no FP sensor on these engines and the PCM does not know what the FP is. FP has to be read with a manually installed gauge.

If you had no FP, you wouldn't be able to start or drive it.

You also cannot read engine coolant temp with a scanner unless you have a manual transmission.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2016 | 11:19 PM
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Ok I will construct or purchase a Fuel Pressure gauge and manually check the pressure.

Also, I am wondering if I may have failing o rings on a Injector (s) that is why it starts when cool but if is hot it wont start?

thoughts? My problem with this theory is that my IPR was not even close to 65%, not even while running.

 
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Old Sep 30, 2016 | 11:45 PM
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Your IPR shouldn't be anywhere near 65%, 40% is considered Bad.....SOP is 5-10%
 
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Old Sep 30, 2016 | 11:52 PM
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Get Rid of Fuel Pressure, Your Map reading isn't working for some reason and everything else seems pretty good. That's at idle right?
 
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Old Oct 1, 2016 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by coax9952
Get Rid of Fuel Pressure, Your Map reading isn't working for some reason and everything else seems pretty good. That's at idle right?
yes all at idle.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2016 | 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Bombguy2
Also, I am wondering if I may have failing o rings on a Injector (s) that is why it starts when cool but if is hot it wont start?

thoughts?
99% of the time, this is a failing ipr Solenoid.
You can try a few things to confirm. When it's hot and won't start, use something like a can of air duster held upside-down to spray the Solenoid. It'll basically freeze it.
Something like brake clean would probably work.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2016 | 04:34 AM
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I shared the link to the 2016 PIDs - it explains the settings and readings you can expect. 40% IPR is good for WOT. If you log your data while you drive, you can share the log here and we might be able to spot the issue.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2016 | 10:17 AM
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ok thanks but dumb question...

What is the ICP Solenoid and where is it located?
Do we have a picture of it?
 
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ICP is the sensor that reads high oil pressure, #13 below. IPR is the solenoid that regulates the pressure, #21. Here's a helpful pic of the landscape. Don't worry, the learning curve for the lingo is steep, we all went thru that.
 
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Originally Posted by Bombguy2
I unplugged the ICP and it did not start but was oily.
If it's leaking oil, it is dying and should be replaced. You can try to clean it and struggle along, but that just postpones the inevitable. OEM only since a lot of the cheapo Fleabay items have issues.

As mentioned above if it consistently will not start when hot, try cooling the IPR. Big gulp of ice works for that. If that fixes it you need an IPR too.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2016 | 11:50 PM
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Two years ago mine just up and died. Long story short. The insulation in the IPR wires just inside the loom totally fell apart shorting the solenoid and thus no go, the nut and these wires are easy checks. I don't recall if you stated anything about the nut

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post14566681
 
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