How are you getting any money out of VW? You had to have purchased the vehicle before the scandal was revealed in September of 2015?

 

The "diminished value" payout is split between the current owner and the owner on record before Sept 1, 2015. (Providing you didn't buy after June 28, 2016 when the settlement was announced.) Two cars == 1 diminished value payment. My wife wants to keep hers. They are working on approving a fix. Mine makes no economical sense to keep even though I love the car. The end result is that I'll be picking up $6900 plus another $2560 from someone rear ending me which buffed out nicely except one little spot that I used touch-up paint on. Every now and then something goes my way.

I don't feel sorry for VW because of the fraud. I do agree the emissions standards are stupid, though. The NOX those cars put out was legal for gas cars 15 years ago. They are very clean. You can wipe your finger in the tailpipe and it comes out clean, too. My best tip-to-tip fillup was 42.16 mpg highway at mostly 75 mph. And that's in an area with lots of hills.

I hope that VW will sell more diesels. I'm trying to see if I can get a nice trade-in one one of the newer generation with the exhaust fluid if they get approval to sell.

My wife's car has such low mileage if she'd ok the buyback we'd get another $1k for mileage adjustment. Buyback value is the book value to Sept 1 2015. The car's value is frozen in time until then if buyback is exercised.

EDIT: On another note I'm really pissed at VW. Both cars had oil leaks. We had both fixed. Hers was still leaking so we took it back and they refused to fix it because it's not "leaking" it's "seeping." Really ridiculous. I have never been so angry. VW's response was to take it to another dealer despite my pictures of a drop forming. So there you have it folks. This is just like Hillary and "extreme carelessness" vs "gross negligence." Apparently they are two different things!

 

Someone had to wind me up today. Not just like Lying Hillary. VW had to pay and gave up a whole lot of business because they figured a way to get past the onerous regulations of an out of control government. The other gained reputation from the "progressives" who live their lives lying and criticizing the rest of the world regardless of their own antics, misrepresentations and criminal activity. Look at the Generals and others who have been dismissed and jailed for even the slightest compromises of security in spite of their great achievements. And the foundation is allowed to bilk millions for their own personal gain as a result of her political posturing? And as a result of dismal management blame an incident on a political video? Not at all the same.

 

I've been perpetually wound up for the last week. Trump is going to torpedo his own campaign and we will have someone who is bought and paid for foreign entities through millions in foundation cash not to mention a continuation of the policies to empower Iran and our enemies abroad. People forget nuclear North Korea was Bill Clinton's fault. He forgot "trust, but verify" under Reagan.

Mark my words though, despite him needing to take a different approach with the gold star father Trump will come out on top. News media already digging up all kinds of stuff about this guy who has written books about moving Sharia law across the west.

My biggest problem with this whole cycle was the choices. Principally I was a Cruz backer, but we already know how well a first-term senator with no executive experience worked out....

I don't think it was VW management that was responsible for the software defeat device. There may have been some culpability there, but I suspect it was an engineering effort. My hope is that all this mess leads to even cleaner/more efficient diesel technology. We will all win in that case!

Remember: it was not an out-of-control govt (and they are) that made VW lie about their results and spend millions on a "clean diesel" marketing campaign. They even bragged about not needing urea which sole purpose is to reduce the very emission they are upwards of 45x over the limit of.

 

I see. Didn't know anyone got anything if it was past the Sept 2015 date. I agree, absolutely great cars. Got to drive a 2011 Golf TDI 6-speed for awhile. Loved the engine and transmission combo. I was able to achieve 48mpg. NOx is colorless, so you won't see black tailpipe residue...that's particulate. VW does use a particulate filter. Personally, I don't care that they cheated. Still far less NOx then a 7.3, 6.0, or even 6.4 diesel. Think of the pollution saved just on the mere fact they achieved excellent mpg.

Although this forum is dedicated to Ford trucks, and not really intended as a political podium, I agree 100% on the two above political comments.

 

The government is stupid. By the time they get 85% of those cars off the road, and the people doing the buy-backs replace those cars when otherwise it would have been a few more years before they got new cars, the pollution and damage to the environment will be far worse than just letting VW pay a fine and keep them on the road. The point is not to protect the environment at all. The point is to extort money from businesses and have everyone fall in line with the government. If they really wanted to protect the environment they would have been encouraging a fix this whole time not a buyback. They won't even let VW sell the cars in other countries. They will be scrapped and junked and replaced. Stupid.

Though I'm part of the problem for capitalizing on it. I keep hearing about 48mpg but not me. Both our cars are Beetles. Mine is a stick and hers is a DSG.

I have a hole in my 8 pound plastic fuel tank that VW wants $1300 for. JB Weld Plastic Bonder fixed it right up. Parts costs are one reason I hate VW. Though I am sure side mirrors on our trucks are going to cost $1500 or more to replace. Probably more. At least those are not a 8 lb plastic fuel tank.

 

Should we talk about cash for clunkers????????Please don't push my push to start button. LOL Just keeping on the thread.

 

Reading the owners manual for the Lincoln MKC would suggest that the hidden key cubby is there for a reason.

 

I told everybody what it was for in post 81.

 

Thanks.

I am coming around to see the merits of it providing safeguards are in place to deter plain and simple theft. I will read the MKC manual when it comes home from work tonight.

 

Post 81 was on a new page that I didn't get to before posting

 

Now that you reminded me of 81, my question. Is not the RFID chip what recognizes the fob when you walk up to the vehicle and the lights come on? Is not that what allows the doors to unlock with contact on the latch by a hand? Is not that what allows the vehicle to start when in someone's pocket in the cabin? All without battery power in the fob. Or if the vehicle in cross communication with the fob at all times how does the battery last more than a few days? I am not asking to disagree but inquiring minds want to know.