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Old Jun 2, 2016 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Gaugepro
Your not listening...

And thats ok. Its your money.

You dont need a new fuel pump, an A1000, A Fass or an Airdog.

The injector size you want will more then likely be FINE with stock fuel pump.

Injectors next week it is . Gaugepro what setup are you running?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2016 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by F250_
Lemme see... from reading your posts, you're a "pipe welder" and you qualify as being a "professional installer/mechanic" for plenums. Yet, you seem to be continuing to ask fairly basic questions. I'm getting an impression you're just having fun spinning words and wasting other folks' time. Who knows... maybe I'm wrong about that, but it's the same impression you've already given several other members on here for whom I have the highest regard.

If really you want to learn this stuff, use the search engine for the topics you're interested in, READ and think about the input already posted throughout this site, and then come back with questions once you've got the basics under your belt.


Ok I've been reading. Strictly diesel has a hutch mod kit. It includes a post pump 2 micron filter. The stock fuel bowl is such . My question is do I need to add another 2 micron filter after the pump or is the post pump adequate .
 
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Old Jun 2, 2016 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by biggdirty7.3
What is trolling
Troll..someone who will make a deliberately offensive or provocative online posting with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.

As you said in another post " I guess I need to understand that people take this site to serious sometimes"

Most of us here feel like we are part of the best website on the web mainly because everybody is respectful and helpful. The goal here is to help each other and learn. So yes we're a little sensitive if we think somebody might be coming in just to try and stir up trouble

With that said I do think you're trying to build a strong truck. Let me start by saying I don't know anything about big horsepower. But if it was me and I had unlimited funds or money was not an issue I would listen to what the guys here are saying and then I would call Clay at riffraff. I would tell him what I'm trying to build and ask him to help me put together a balanced package. Keep in mind that the hardware is only one part of it.
You're going to need some really good tuning to keep that Beast under control.

I hope you do build a strong truck and I hope we get to watch it here on this site
 
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Old Jun 2, 2016 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by AllaboutMPG
Troll..someone who will make a deliberately offensive or provocative online posting with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.

As you said in another post " I guess I need to understand that people take this site to serious sometimes"

Most of us here feel like we are part of the best website on the web mainly because everybody is respectful and helpful. The goal here is to help each other and learn. So yes we're a little sensitive if we think somebody might be coming in just to try and stir up trouble

With that said I do think you're trying to build a strong truck. Let me start by saying I don't know anything about big horsepower. But if it was me and I had unlimited funds or money was not an issue I would listen to what the guys here are saying and then I would call Clay at riffraff. I would tell him what I'm trying to build and ask him to help me put together a balanced package. Keep in mind that the hardware is only one part of it.
You're going to need some really good tuning to keep that Beast under control.

I hope you do build a strong truck and I hope we get to watch it here on this site

Thank you . I've been reading alot and trying too keep questions to a need know basis .
 
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Old Jun 2, 2016 | 10:27 PM
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My set up is in my sig... Its changed many many times over the years...
 
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Old Jun 3, 2016 | 08:09 AM
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If you have a 2 micron post pump filter, you will NOT need a second post pump filter. It's just that simple.

As for longevity of the stock pump, I've now seen two of them go past 220K miles, and I have another sitting at 193K miles and is running perfect.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2016 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by F250_
If you have a 2 micron post pump filter, you will NOT need a second post pump filter. It's just that simple.

As for longevity of the stock pump, I've now seen two of them go past 220K miles, and I have another sitting at 193K miles and is running perfect.

After reading more into the subject the pre pump filter is a water separater type filter and the post pump is a 2 micron filter . I will be buying the full kit from strictly diesel.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2016 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by F250_
As for longevity of the stock pump, I've now seen two of them go past 220K miles, and I have another sitting at 193K miles and is running perfect.


Ive got a factory original with 349k and counting, no issues.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2016 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by biggdirty7.3
After reading more into the subject the pre pump filter is a water separater type filter and the post pump is a 2 micron filter . I will be buying the full kit from strictly diesel.
At that HP some say the Strictly Diesel will restrict your fuel flow. Listern to Gaugepro, he's done lots of builds. He'll get you there. Your tuning is very important. Hope you can get it live tuned as well.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2016 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by biggdirty7.3
After reading more into the subject the pre pump filter is a water separater type filter and the post pump is a 2 micron filter . I will be buying the full kit from strictly diesel.
Here is the deal... Fuel pumps are made to push fuel, not pull it...

Do a 20-30 micron pre pump filter/water seperator. Then a 2 micron filter after the pump.

All the pre-pump filter does is keep the big crap out.

Put too much restriction prepump... bye bye pump.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2016 | 07:21 AM
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Just to contribute... the pickup tube needs a very coarse strainer to keep loose foil covers from fuel additives out of the tube - the pickup foot has this already. I added a secondary strainer (not filter) pre-pump to keep the fines out of the pump impeller:





OK... that took care of everything pre-pump to prevent clogs and any other restrictions on the vacuum side (which these pumps are very sensitive to as Gaugepro inferred). Post-pump, you are not as limited with filtration because because the pump does pressure just fine. I have used the stock filter housing and regulator with no fuel pressure issues, but that will get a revisit when I swap the engine out.

I have seen "experiments" with all kinds of pre-pump filtration (including on my own truck), with many of them ultimately being yanked and converted to a system just like or very similar to the one I have now.

It's your money and time... so dine on the brochure, or heed the experienced advice here. Remember... we have nothing to gain other than knowing we helped a brother out. Vendor websites touting the miraculous capabilities of their fuel systems do not have incentive to offer up a less-expensive solution that requires no "subscription" to their replacement filter cartridges.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2016 | 09:08 AM
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At that HP some say the Strictly Diesel will restrict your fuel flow. Listern to Gaugepro, he's done lots of builds. He'll get you there. Your tuning is very important. Hope you can get it live tuned as well.
I'll pm him thanks
 
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Old Jun 4, 2016 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Gaugepro
Here is the deal... Fuel pumps are made to push fuel, not pull it...

Do a 20-30 micron pre pump filter/water seperator. Then a 2 micron filter after the pump.

All the pre-pump filter does is keep the big crap out.

Put too much restriction prepump... bye bye pump.

10-4 thanks
 
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Old Jun 4, 2016 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Tugly
Just to contribute... the pickup tube needs a very coarse strainer to keep loose foil covers from fuel additives out of the tube - the pickup foot has this already. I added a secondary strainer (not filter) pre-pump to keep the fines out of the pump impeller:


Around what ballpark is the price for this setup




OK... that took care of everything pre-pump to prevent clogs and any other restrictions on the vacuum side (which these pumps are very sensitive to as Gaugepro inferred). Post-pump, you are not as limited with filtration because because the pump does pressure just fine. I have used the stock filter housing and regulator with no fuel pressure issues, but that will get a revisit when I swap the engine out.

I have seen "experiments" with all kinds of pre-pump filtration (including on my own truck), with many of them ultimately being yanked and converted to a system just like or very similar to the one I have now.

It's your money and time... so dine on the brochure, or heed the experienced advice here. Remember... we have nothing to gain other than knowing we helped a brother out. Vendor websites touting the miraculous capabilities of their fuel systems do not have incentive to offer up a less-expensive solution that requires no "subscription" to their replacement filter cartridges.

Around ballpark price of this setup?
 
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Old Jun 4, 2016 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by biggdirty7.3
Around ballpark price of this setup?
Under $100 with fittings, hoses and a DIY bracket. At our flow rates, this is a pretty effective water separator and combined with OE or an aftermarket post-pump primary filter/separator is more than sufficient. Unless you plan to pump trash into your your tank...

Do the 'in-tank mods' and put this in front of the OE pump. There is nothing at all wrong with the stock fuel filter. In fact, there is nothing wrong with the deadheaded fuel system - you will never know the difference between it and the $1000 you are trying to spend to replace it (with something less durable/reliable).

A fuel pressure gauge will tell you if you're able to supply enough fuel.

If you are dead set on Regulated Return, I have a new-in-box kit with SS hoses I'll make you a deal on. It came with a bunch of other goodies I bought awhile back...

This is all you need to do in-tank (besides snip the filler tube) You just need a 3/8" compression union and a piece of tubing. I use alum tubing and put a 90* bend on the end so I can put it directly on the bottom of the tank.



For those with stock injectors, the WIX 33972 is a fine pre-pump filter/strainer for under $20 with hose, clamps and filter. I do these all the time and never have any trouble.
 
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