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Old Apr 11, 2016 | 10:42 AM
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transmission filter change???????

2013 F-250 with the 6.2. I just bought this truck from an oil field company in Texas. It now has 140K miles on it so I called for a transmission flush. For a Hot transmission flush it is $199. To have them adding in dropping the pan and replacing the filter the price jumps to $371. I am being told the filter is $55 and the seal is $34. So that means about $100 in labor. Assuming it has never been changed since it was a company truck do you think it is worth changing the filter?
 
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Old Apr 11, 2016 | 01:56 PM
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Yes, it is worth changing the filter.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2016 | 10:57 PM
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I would personally not do a flush, since it probably has never had one. Flushes on transmissions that have never had one, or have likely not been maintained really well tend to dislodge deposits, which then will likely clog up solenoid valves or get stuck in various places (like the valve body), causing problems.

I would just do a filter change, drop pan, drain the TC if possible, and replace all trans fluid.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Powerdude
I would personally not do a flush, since it probably has never had one. Flushes on transmissions that have never had one, or have likely not been maintained really well tend to dislodge deposits, which then will likely clog up solenoid valves or get stuck in various places (like the valve body), causing problems.

I would just do a filter change, drop pan, drain the TC if possible, and replace all trans fluid.
Normally I would agree. But high mileage isnt really what causes deposits but a combination of age and mileage. Since the truck is only three years old there shouldn't be much stuck on large chunks of deposits. I am so sure of that I actually put in sea foam trans cleaner in it about 60 miles ago.

Truck is at the dealer now. I read an article where ford contemplated having an external filter to this transmission. I don't know why all auto makers don't do that now they have the flush method to maintain fluid. Them droping the pan to get to the filter isn't just economically friendly but it also isnt environmently friendly since they will be disposing of more oil.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Powerdude
I would personally not do a flush, since it probably has never had one. Flushes on transmissions that have never had one, or have likely not been maintained really well tend to dislodge deposits, which then will likely clog up solenoid valves or get stuck in various places (like the valve body), causing problems.

I would just do a filter change, drop pan, drain the TC if possible, and replace all trans fluid.
That's an old myth and simply isn't true. And there is no torque converter drain plug.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
That's an old myth and simply isn't true. And there is no torque converter drain plug.
I wouldn't call it a myth. Maybe it was the way oils used to be formulated but it did leave a mess inside components after years of abuse (lack of maintenance)
 
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 01:40 PM
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So it isn't true that flushing a higher mileage transmission will cause it to fail, but many uninformed people believe it. As far as I can tell that's a myth. What would you call it?
 
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Powerdude
I would personally not do a flush, since it probably has never had one. Flushes on transmissions that have never had one, or have likely not been maintained really well tend to dislodge deposits, which then will likely clog up solenoid valves or get stuck in various places (like the valve body), causing problems.

I would just do a filter change, drop pan, drain the TC if possible, and replace all trans fluid.
I own a 2000 f250. The Tranny had 248,823 miles. Oil looked extremely dark on the dipstick so I opted to flush mine (it had been shifting horribly bad/hard) and do a filter change. The magnet in the pan looked like it had never been changed. It was about 4 times it's normal size. Since the flush the truck now shifts like it's brand-new. I've put 600 miles on it since and still no issues.

Personally I'd call this a myth based on my personal experience.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 01:59 PM
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So there was a slight miscommunication with the ford dealer and my final price for a full trans service was $630.68. I about fell out of my chair.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 02:07 PM
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So there was a slight miscommunication with the ford dealer and my final price for a full trans service was $630.68. I about fell out of my chair.
Ouch

I'm not the one to let a shop do any work on my truck. I'd rather buy the materials and parts and do it myself.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 02:09 PM
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I don't have the equipment to do the flush but if I knew just the pan drop was $371 I would have done that myself
 
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Wingit929
I don't have the equipment to do the flush but if I knew just the pan drop was $371 I would have done that myself
I have a 4r100 transmission (not sure what you have.) And all I needed was a measured bucket, 1/2" clear vinyl tubing, hose clamp, and come wrenches to flush it. Just pull the return line coming from the cooler into the Tranny, put the hose on and run it into a bucket. Than its a drawn out process of starting, refilling, starting, refilling.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 06:23 PM
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This is why I drop the pan and do the filter, and then periodically (like every other oil change) just drain the pan and refill.


Got the filter and fluid yesterday (ordered online), and going to do it this weekend.


Thread is here: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...rain-fill.html
 
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Originally Posted by GSSF17
This is why I drop the pan and do the filter, and then periodically (like every other oil change) just drain the pan and refill.


Got the filter and fluid yesterday (ordered online), and going to do it this weekend.


Thread is here: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...rain-fill.html
Did the filter come with a new seal? What did it end up costing?
 
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Old Apr 13, 2016 | 07:24 AM
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Did the filter come with a new seal? What did it end up costing?


Assuming you are talking about the transmission pan gasket, Per Ford, the gasket is reusable. They can be obtained easily at the local parts stores if I run into a problem. Will try to get to it this weekend and post about it. Dropping the pan and replacing the filter is very easy, and I have done this in every truck I have ever owned. As I put in my other thread on this topic, I would install a drain plug or an aftermarket pan with a drain plug on my past vehicles so I could do a 50% fluid exchange easily.
 
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