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Old Apr 11, 2016 | 12:27 PM
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....And, do all of the Bronco/Supercab bucket seats attach to the pan?
I could be wrong on this, but I don't think Bronco / SuperCabs used a pan with bucket seats. I think each buck and the center seat or console attached to the floor separately. If I'm wrong about that I hope someone else can correct me.

And I could be wrong on this also, but I don't think it's entirely straightforward attaching Bronco / SuperCab buckets to a regular / crew cab pan. I've only read what others have done, and since Brad said it could be done I'm sure it can. But I'm thinking a little fab work was required.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2016 | 01:21 PM
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I could be wrong on this, but I don't think Bronco / SuperCabs used a pan with bucket seats. I think each buck and the center seat or console attached to the floor separately. If I'm wrong about that I hope someone else can correct me.

And I could be wrong on this also, but I don't think it's entirely straightforward attaching Bronco / SuperCab buckets to a regular / crew cab pan. I've only read what others have done, and since Brad said it could be done I'm sure it can. But I'm thinking a little fab work was required.
I did a poor job of asking the question. Let me re-state: I think the Bronco/Supercab buckets and console attached directly to the floor pan w/o the pan/bracket. Instead, my question was how easily the buckets and console attach to the 40/20/40 pan/bracket. And, from my limited experience some work is necessary, although not a lot. I'll go revisit what I did to quantify that.

Jerry - I'm not saying it is difficult to attach the buckets and console to the regular/crew cab pan. But, that it takes drilling holes, shimming, and reinforcing.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2016 | 05:29 PM
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Basically the pan gives the ability of having a flat level span to mount whatever type seats are comfortable for you without having to drill holes in your cab floor.
The factory seats that bolt to the pan have straight flat tracks under them.
If you use car seats in a single cab truck, check the thickness of the uprights. Truck seats have thin uprights, bench or bucket, to accommodate for space.
A seat that is comfortable in a Mercedes may be miserable in a truck unless you are a very short person that drives with the seat all the way forward.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2016 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by first today
Basically the pan gives the ability of having a flat level span to mount whatever type seats are comfortable for you without having to drill holes in your cab floor.
The factory seats that bolt to the pan have straight flat tracks under them.
If you use car seats in a single cab truck, check the thickness of the uprights. Truck seats have thin uprights, bench or bucket, to accommodate for space.
A seat that is comfortable in a Mercedes may be miserable in a truck unless you are a very short person that drives with the seat all the way forward.
Thank you as I was thinking the same thing but never by a PC to post it when thinking it.


Buckets may not be a big deal but if you use a bench set from something else it might be too wide, cant close the doors or not wide enough and someone or both people will only have 1 butt cheek on the seat.
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 04:44 AM
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Ok, this is starting to make sense. Let me see if I understand correctly.
There are two different floor pans - regular cab and crew cab trucks share one, and Broncos and Supercabs share the other. And both pans are drilled for and accept the bench seat tracks. But, the bucket seat mounts attach to the floor in a different spot, and only the Bronco/Supercab pan accepts them. In fact, to directly attach buckets to a regular/crew cab pan requires a lot of drilling and spacing. However, the base or pan for the 40/20/40 seats mounts to the bench seat holes and accepts the bucket seat tracks, so it makes mounting bucket seats a bolt-in arrangement.
Is that correct? And, do all of the Bronco/Supercab bucket seats attach to the pan?
Yes you got it. In order to use BUCKETS in a reg/crew. You need a reg/crew 40/20/40(1994-97) seat pan AND the tracks from the same. You then use the bronco/supercab buckets(only the seat itself), attach the 40/20/40 tracks then bolt them to the 40/20/40 pan, then bolt it in the truck just like the stock bench seat with 4 bolts. The console attaches to the pan w 3 sheet metal screws(just like it attached to the floor in the bronco/supercab)

Buckets ONLY came in bronco and supercabs so that is why you need to do custom mounts


OZARK, YES the floor is different, that is why you had to add shims. If it was the same you would not of had to do that. They should of been VERY evident
 
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 06:32 AM
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Yes you got it. In order to use BUCKETS in a reg/crew. You need a reg/crew 40/20/40 seat pan AND the trans from the same.
The transmission?
 
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 07:10 AM
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Chris - I think spell caster, AKA spell check, got him and it should be "tracks".

Brad - Thanks. I'll add those words to my web site on seats, and report back when done.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 07:26 AM
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Taking into consideration that I stepped blindly into this project nearly 4 years ago...I will conclude and sum up MY experience..Pull up carpet..Center seat on pan..Mark 4 holes..drill..shim to level..(1/2 to 3/4")..fender washers both sides BOLT IN.... 2 bolts for the console..(not raised )..Project finished...It looks to me that the buckets mounted on yet a higher platform..(seat pan)...will put the seats even higher in a regular cab. High back seats already are in to the rear glass vision...Personally, I think my way worked fine..but..to each his own !!
 
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 08:00 AM
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Jerry - Do you have pics of the shimming you did? I seem to recall having seen some but can't find them. Or, maybe my memory is of actually seeing the seats when I stopped by?

Anyway, I'd like to show both ways of doing this so people can see the two approaches. So, can I use your pics on my web site?
 
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Old Apr 13, 2016 | 07:26 AM
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Gary..Please use any of my pictures or text. As I recall, when you were here I had just got the seats in place to do the final bolt down. I mention again..this was literally an hour's job at the MOST to install both seats.I had no clue how they would sit for the first time. I used the wheel spacers that I had left over from my Cobra build..and the were perfect. I put down a fender washer..then the spacer..carpet..then the seat...under the truck..another fender washer..and a nylok..The seats will be a little closer to the dash..( angle of seat back is different)..and I left the forward tilt on my passenger seat. (When my wife is in the truck she will have to suffer no forward adjustment) Take a look at the open passenger door shot of my truck. If that doesn't look factory. I'm not a gearhead..OR a fabricator. I did this swap 30 years ago on my '66 shortbed with Mustang seats..so I had no visions of a perfect bolt-in.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 04:45 AM
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Bronco buckets and console mounted to a 40/20/40 seat pan
I am not sure why you would want to go about it any other way
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Except for blocking half the rear window....
 
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 09:24 AM
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Brad - Are those seats bolted on? I ask because the tracks that came with my base would not bolt to my 1988 Bronco buckets. I tried many different approaches and finally used the tracks that came with the buckets, although I had to re-drill a hole.

If those in your picture are bolted on, then what year are they? Maybe Ford changed things so the buckets will bolt to the later tracks?
 
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Gary Lewis
Brad - Are those seats bolted on? I ask because the tracks that came with my base would not bolt to my 1988 Bronco buckets. I tried many different approaches and finally used the tracks that came with the buckets, although I had to re-drill a hole.

If those in your picture are bolted on, then what year are they? Maybe Ford changed things so the buckets will bolt to the later tracks?
Brad had a thread on installing Bronco seats to a regular / crew cab pan https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-seat-pan.html. I don't know for sure but I assume that's the same seats as he showed here. It doesn't look like what I'd call "simple" (and certainly wasn't just a bolt-in), but it looks like it worked out well.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 12:05 PM
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Bob - Thanks for the response and link. I'm now I had a similar experience, but wound up solving it in a different way. In any event, you answered the question - it isn't a bolt-on arrangement.

I'm crafting words for my web site page to explain how this can be done, and plan to have links to Brad's thread, my thread, and Jerry's thread. I'll post a link to my web page when I get it done and ask for y'all to critique it - it can easily be changed, so don't be shy.
 
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