In at the cat scales in Fernwood Mississippi. The WD bars have straightend out the u shape hanger. What could have caused this? Is it safe to toe without the WD bars?

 

The hooks on the weight distribution adjuster bent? Sounds to me that the bar that connects the WD bars to the adjuster was not straight up and down. I have bent the connecting bar by lowering the WD too far but was able to straighten it.


I would not drive it without the WD hooked up, the Pro Pride uses the bars for turning and stabilizing the hitch head.


Do you have a standard hitch with you? You could take the PP off and tow the camper without it until you get with Sean at PP and get a replacement part.

 

Here's a before and after. I installed everything as per the instructions a few months back haven't towed with it it just a few miles giving it a shake down. Today we trekked about 30 miles to the cat scales. At least I did get one pass over the scales.
3680 front axle
6380 rear axel
9100 TT axel
Heading home to get the old fast way hitch

Thanks for the reply

 

I know someone at Pro Pride. Here's what he told me:

Also, see your PM for more stuff I can't put in this post.

 

what are your front and rear axle weights of the excursion without the trailer hooked up ?

 

Oilfield, I would also turn your stinger so it is not so close to the ground, just turn it 180 degrees and readjust . Since the PP sits lower on the tongue at some campsites you may have ground clearance issues.


Good luck, I am interested in what Mark's contact has to say.

 

Pirate, that was my first pass on the scales before everything went kaput. I have made another pass but the wife was not with me so the weights are different. I'll look at the ticket and post tomorrow.

Mark I really appreciate you reaching out to propride for me. This is a strange thing here. I hooked up when I left the house and stopped twice and checked before getting to the interstate. Once in the interstate I did not like the way it was driving so I pulled off into an empty parking lot and measures and readjusted the WD bars. Got back on the interstate and still was not comfortable so I continued on the back roads. Upon arrival at the scales I weighed as I was pulling off the scales it fell both bars at the same time. Had to inflate the airbags to 120 to get the bars off the ground so I could get out of the way. No sharp turns no backing up all I can figure is I installed something incorrectly. Heading back to get the TT now had to come back home for the WD bar tool for the Fastwat hitch

 

I'm following this too, but not being a PP user I have nothing to offer as to what happened. But I do agree on what Excurvelle said about flipping that drawbar over to get better ground clearance, especially with your RWD EX.
If that hitch was feeling unstable on the highway then it does sound like something may not have been adjusted properly during setup. Please keep us informed as you work with PP to get this all sorted out and good luck, once you get this thing dialed in you should be very happy with it.


I know that you are having a bad day and I don't mean to add to your stress level or nitpick but I have a few other observations that I'm going to mention. My only intent is to help you get to a better and safer towing combo with fewer problems on the road in the future.
It's hard to tell for sure from the first picture but is the TT riding a little nose high? Level or slightly nose down will provide for better handling and braking performance.
Your 7 way cable looks a little tight in the pic, do you have any way of freeing up a few additional inches to give it some slack? If it's fairly tight-ish it could pull out on a tight turn causing a lose of lighting and brakes on the TT. I had to relocate my TT 7 way cable junction box to give me a little slack with our Hensley's extra length.
Looking at your safety chain/cable hooks, they should be hooked onto the receiver hitch the opposite way, from up and under through the hole vs down and through as they are. The gates on the hooks should also be latched closed once attached to the receiver hitch for added security of the safety chains.
Again, I don't mean to nitpick, I just want to point out a few items before they can become problems down the road.

 

Alright Guys the TT is home safe. As most people already know my towing experiences with the X has been horrible. I bought the Propride as I learned that my hitch was undersized. When I installed the PP a few months back I took it for a few spins bout 6 miles up the interstate and back. The PP didn't make me feel any better. To me this indicated several issues with the X. I changed rear springs front rear shocks installed a Curt hitch and an Expy center console. Yesterday I finally got brave enough to to head to the scales I got on the interstate and it was still scary. I got off at the next exit and readjusted the WD bars and it was still scary but not as scary. I travelled the back road at about 45 to 55 miles an hour till I arrived at the scales. There was no sharp turns no backing up no maneuvers that could have added extra stress to the hitch. Upon disassembly I noticed that on one WD jack there was a kind loose bolt. I also noticed on the piece that holds the tail piece of the yoke a few kinda loose bolts and that it was shifted about an inch out of place. I do believe that this was my problem and what caused the failure. I do not think that the quality of the hitch is in question here.
I know I repeated some of the above in a below post just wanted to stick it all in one post

Tom and Excurville I do agree with flipping the stinger. The current set up is how I was told to do it.
The 7 way does look tight in that picture. I thought it had more slack than that when hooking up. The Hooks yep those are wrong also. My current hooks do not fit on the Curt and latch I was going to swing by camping world after weighing to pick up new hooks but they didn't carry them

I am glad you are nitpicking I probably would have never noticed the 7 way beign to tight.

Anyway here the good news. Once I installed the old undersized fastwayE2 hitch I had the most pleasant towing experience I have had with the X and current TT.
So I have to say the problem is no longer with the X. It is with my inability to correct follow the setup instructions on the PP. I do believe that the main thing that fixed it was the Expy center console. lol

 

glad to see you safely working through the issues to get it dialed in.

you are moving a lot of mass with a big asurface area ( think side wind ) and it can take time to get all the different variables setup to work well. looking forward to th day you are ready to hit the road on your adventure with a rock steady rig.

 

I am no TT towing EXpert as some on the forum. I am looking at the last pic posted & IT IS A PIC, BUT, to me pulling is pulling (somewhat). It does look as if the TT's noise is slightly up, level at best. The X looks great BUT maybe too great ?? If you are EXperiencing the high speed death sway at 50-60 MPH I'd say you are a little light on the tail of the X. IE: the load is still not dialed in.

 

Have you talked to ProPride?

 

Happy to hear that you got the TT home without further incident.
Just as happy to read that you took my nitpicking the right way. I know that you WILL get this combo to play nice with that PP! I think you will have a very educational phone conversation with PP this week! Everything that I've read about them says that they have great customer service and my brief conversation with Sean a few years back was very good.
Those Expy consoles are the shizzle, they make everything better!
Harley, with 6380lbs on the rear axle I don't think he is suffering from too little weight there. It is sometimes difficult to really tell if a trailer is riding level from a picture between the 60' bumper to bumper length, shadows and uneven ground that angle can look off a bit. Below is a picture of my EX pulling the EXACT SAME TT as Oilfield's (and yes, like Pirate said they are a lot of mass with a very BIG surface area to control!) from a very similar angle, mine looks a tad bit nose high but I know for a fact that is actually just a whisker nose down from level.



Also with a Pro-Pride (what Oilfield uses) or Hensley Arrow (what I use) setup correctly it is virtually impossible to develop trailer sway. Where most high quality WD hitches have built-in "sway control" these days the two models named above are both "sway elimination" WD hitches. They operate quite differently from typical WD setups and do not pivot on the hitch ball at all.

 

I have been looking for my measurements but I can't seem to find them. If I am not mistaken I am either level or just a hair up. But that's neither here nor there right now the hitch is off waiting to talk to PP tomorrow. The X does look good in those pictures don't it. Lol Before hitching I have 20 inch in the front and 24.5 in the rear. This was measured from the fender well lip to the center of the hub. After hitching I am down to 23.5 in the rear and almost 21in the front. That is with the propride. Now with the fastway crackerjack hitch I can get the front down to 20 and the rear is stil at 23.5.
I haven't talked to PP yet as heck it's Sunday and there is no emergency anymore But I will wake up before 9 am and give them a call

 

Oh yea these Modified C codes from ATS are awesome