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Just be prepared to change fuel filter more often until everything is cleaned out.
It has excellent lubricity and will keep the system cleaner. Full bio is another story and has more precautions, but most things do well with 5%-10% bio.
After a tank or three, you might be surprised at the difference it might make
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Almost every OTR truck we service have their oil changed every 10,000 to 15,000 miles if they went 100,000 miles they may as well replace the engine because there wouldn't be much of the engine left. The new engines run a lot hotter than previous models which will break the oil down. Ever wonder why they don't install Pryo gauges anymore. The cost of a $250 oil change is alot cheaper than a $25,000 engine.
we have a brand new kenworth that is loaded with gauges, including the pyrometer.
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Especially if it is older equipment, add a little quality biodiesel mixed into the fuel (warm weather).
Just be prepared to change fuel filter more often until everything is cleaned out.
It has excellent lubricity and will keep the system cleaner. Full bio is another story and has more precautions, but most things do well with 5%-10% bio.
After a tank or three, you might be surprised at the difference it might make
Just be prepared to change fuel filter more often until everything is cleaned out.
It has excellent lubricity and will keep the system cleaner. Full bio is another story and has more precautions, but most things do well with 5%-10% bio.
After a tank or three, you might be surprised at the difference it might make
like SMT said, additives end up costing you thousands of dollars for a new fuel injection system.
clean fuel is all you need.
there is no way i would ever put anything except for clean diesel fuel in the tanks of a $203,000 truck.
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as per manufacturers, no fuel additives at all.
like SMT said, additives end up costing you thousands of dollars for a new fuel injection system.
clean fuel is all you need.
there is no way i would ever put anything except for clean diesel fuel in the tanks of a $203,000 truck.
like SMT said, additives end up costing you thousands of dollars for a new fuel injection system.
clean fuel is all you need.
there is no way i would ever put anything except for clean diesel fuel in the tanks of a $203,000 truck.
Here's some info. Lots out there, but this is just a little bit.
Alternative Fuels Data Center: Biodiesel Blends
Biodiesel and warranties:
http://biodiesel.org/docs/default-so...).pdf?sfvrsn=6
Excerpt:
Most OEM dealers and customer service departments currently tell their customers the use of up to 5% biodiesel (B5) is acceptable, with the requirement the pure biodiesel fuel adhere to the quality standards specified by American Society of Testing and Materials standard (ASTM D 6751) prior to blending. Many OEM’s are also recommending biodiesel and biodiesel blends only be purchased from BQ-9000 certified companies. There are some OEM’s who tell their customers biodiesel blends up to B20 are acceptable, while others say anything up to B100 is acceptable.
B20 Fleet Evaluation Team Members
Cummins, John Deere, International Truck and Engine Corp, DaimlerChrysler, Caterpillar, Ford Motor Company, General Motors, Department of Defense, Siemens, Delphi Automotive Systems, Volkswagen, Engine Manufacturers Association, MARC-IV Consulting, ASG Renaissance, Bosch, FleetGuard, NREL, BMW of North America, Mack Trucks, Stanadyne Automotive Corporation, Suncor, CNH Global, Parker-Hannifin-Racor Division, and DENSO International America.
Cummins, John Deere, International Truck and Engine Corp, DaimlerChrysler, Caterpillar, Ford Motor Company, General Motors, Department of Defense, Siemens, Delphi Automotive Systems, Volkswagen, Engine Manufacturers Association, MARC-IV Consulting, ASG Renaissance, Bosch, FleetGuard, NREL, BMW of North America, Mack Trucks, Stanadyne Automotive Corporation, Suncor, CNH Global, Parker-Hannifin-Racor Division, and DENSO International America.
Some more info:
Biodiesel-Ready Cummins Engines - Cummins Engines
Excerpt:
What Cummins engines can be used with B20 biodiesel?
The current approved engine models are as follows:
On-Highway: ISX, ISM, ISL and ISB engines certified to EPA ’02 and later emissions standards, ISL, and ISB engines certified to Euro 3.
Off-Highway: QSX, QSM, QSL, QSC, QSB6.7, QSB4.5 and QSB3.3 engines certified to Tier 3/Stage IIIA, QSM Marine, QSM G-Drive.
High Horsepower Off-Highway built after January 1, 2008: QSK78, QSK60, QSK50, K2000E, K50, QSK45, QSK38, K1500E, K38, QST30, QSK23, QSK19 and K19. Also Marine QSK60, QSK50, K50 QSK45, QSK38, K38 QSK19, K19.
Cummins has approved B20 for the high horsepower engines listed above with the following fuel systems: Pressure Timed, High-Pressure Injection, Modular Common Rail Fuel Injection System and BOSCH Pump-Line-Nozzle.
The current approved engine models are as follows:
On-Highway: ISX, ISM, ISL and ISB engines certified to EPA ’02 and later emissions standards, ISL, and ISB engines certified to Euro 3.
Off-Highway: QSX, QSM, QSL, QSC, QSB6.7, QSB4.5 and QSB3.3 engines certified to Tier 3/Stage IIIA, QSM Marine, QSM G-Drive.
High Horsepower Off-Highway built after January 1, 2008: QSK78, QSK60, QSK50, K2000E, K50, QSK45, QSK38, K1500E, K38, QST30, QSK23, QSK19 and K19. Also Marine QSK60, QSK50, K50 QSK45, QSK38, K38 QSK19, K19.
Cummins has approved B20 for the high horsepower engines listed above with the following fuel systems: Pressure Timed, High-Pressure Injection, Modular Common Rail Fuel Injection System and BOSCH Pump-Line-Nozzle.
Whether or not you (knowingly) use biodiesel is your own choice, but it isn't like some of the snakeoils out there sold as additives
It doesn't like cold, though, and I don't know of a "great" biodiesel additive to prevent gelling and such. You can cold filter and such, but that wastes a bunch.The default answer if you are unsure is "Check with the manufacturer"
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well i really don't have to worry too much about that, because i have never seen bio diesel anywhere here except for one place that went bankrupt after realizing the stuff would not pump or work at sub freezing temps.
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The government is really good at taking something that works perfectly fine, and screwing it all up. That's progress, right ? Hm.
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Ouch! Yeah, when I was making biodiesel a few years back, I switched to kero-cut dino diesel every fall and back in Spring.
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