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Old Feb 13, 2016 | 06:42 PM
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4 inch harbor freight drop hitch. Really need a 6 inch for that trailer. The 4 inch works well with my work trailer which I did a flip kit on. Axles under the leaf instead of on top.

It was on the bump stops. Only went about 20 miles back to the shop. Will NOT do it again. I'll let the f650 do the towing for that trailer from now on. Can't even feel it behind that truck.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2016 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by pirate4x4_camo
@Tom

I think what he is saying is he that setup his spring rate and ride height of the suspension so that with the trailer hooked up the vehicle and trailer are level.

If he tailored his suspension to the load and the vehicle didn't sag past level then his old WD hitch setup would be slack with the new suspension setup. With his setup he built the spring rate into the suspension instead of using the WD hitch.

Maybe, but that still will not reload front axle weight.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2016 | 10:09 PM
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Weight distribution hitch

Originally Posted by Tom
I don't understand this. My WD hitch is a common round-bar style with snap-up brackets. To assemble you latch the coupler on the ball, then hook the chain links of the spring bars onto the snap-up brackets and snap them into place. This puts tension on the spring bars.

If the WD hitch is slack it's not adjusted right. Mine is adjusted by selecting the proper link on the chain that attaches to the bars. If there is no tension on the bars you're doing it wrong.
If you looked at the link of my hitch you would see why I am not currently using them. The bars come straight back and ride on cams that self center the trailer to control sway. The chains pull up on the cams. With the suspension set up properly and the trailer loaded properly they are both level. I carry the bars with me and if I have to load the hitch or the truck sags to the point that I need them. I will put them on as it takes 30 seconds. But since the truck drives perfectly and the bars are loose I see no reason to leave them on when I don't need them. I did run them on this excursion for several weeks before we added the Timberen suspension and the bars functioned as designed. But after installation we actually lowered the hitch as the truck no longer squats and drags the hitch now. It also raised the beaver tail further off the ground to improve my departure angle. I tow a heavy and long trailer a lot and have always been an advocate for these type of hitches, but the truck just works without it. I didn't post that so that you could help me get it adjusted, but rather just to share my experience with the OP.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2016 | 02:18 AM
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I concede you are not looking for advice but in fairness to less experienced towers I would like to add a note.

Your bars now have slack in the because your truck is now squatting less. The bars are not angling down like they were before. But it is still supporting the same amount of tongue weight.

That is not to say they wouldn't do anything if you readjusted your hitch ( head angle). The bottom line of a weight distribution hitch is to distribute that tongue weight towards the front axle.

Even if the truck only squats 1 inches due to stiffer suspension, it is still holding or supporting the same tongue weight as before the suspension upgrades. The varying amount of tension you put on those bars will distribute that weight forward even if the truck only raises back up a portion of that 1" that it had squatted.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2016 | 10:01 AM
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I agree completely and am not telling the OP not to get one. I just wanted to share my experience that the suspension makes a bigger difference. So start there. Then get the weight distribution hitch. That is my experience.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2016 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by sweetfarm
I agree completely and am not telling the OP not to get one. I just wanted to share my experience that the suspension makes a bigger difference. So start there. Then get the weight distribution hitch. That is my experience.
I totally understand. It's kinda like a guy pulling with a dually and a proper rated hitch will pull that 14k dump trailer easily compared to the Excursion above.

Because it was designed to withore stout suspension & gearing.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2016 | 10:16 AM
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That's exactly right! I pull a 30' trailer that weighs over 4,000 lbs empty. I had a bearing go out on the excursion and my buddy came and got me with his dually. We unloaded everything I was carrying and loaded the excursion. Then reloaded all the cargo around it. Well over 10,000 lbs of cargo. He hitched up with just a ball and we were on our way. When I saw a bridge abutment that went across the road at an angle I grabbed the dash. He stared at me blankly as we just rolled over it. I knew from experience that hitting that same bridge with the excursion was a 2 handed white knuckle ride with my loaded trailer! But with the dually with no proper hitch...nothing!
 
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