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Old Feb 8, 2016 | 04:23 PM
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Well seems like I still have an issue. Started this morning and vgt is sitting at 85...crap. get on the road and I have to floor it to get the vgt to drop to normal then it stays normal for a bit then drops to 15 and it will jump to 85 while driving 70mph.
Also I'm driving at 70mph and zero boost.
I have no idea other then maybe a bad vgt solenoid?? Any thoughts.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2016 | 05:09 PM
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VGT % is backwards as I recall.
The lower the # the more it's on.

How is the power? If it feels good I think you might be OK.



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Old Feb 8, 2016 | 05:21 PM
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Lower VGT % = more open
Higher % = closed

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Old Feb 8, 2016 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Yahiko
VGT % is backwards as I recall.
The lower the # the more it's on.

How is the power? If it feels good I think you might be OK.



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Well when the vgt is at 85 the boost is way up and i can floor it and not go over 40mph untill it lets loose then all is well. Not blowing any smoke either.
I'm way outmof my knowledge here.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2016 | 10:49 PM
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Big big fan of DieseltechRon, but I wouldn't recommend slathering the posts, ring and vanes with anti-sieze like he does.

Brush it on and then wipe it off so it leaves a very light coating.

Use the hi temp nickle or standard silver. Do not use Copper Anti-Sieze

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I went completely dry on my turbo cleaning I just completed. It should work good. I thought about using high temp anti seize but decided against all together.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2016 | 12:25 PM
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Well when the vgt is at 85 the boost is way up and i can floor it and not go over 40mph untill it lets loose then all is well. Not blowing any smoke either.
I'm way outmof my knowledge here.
Anyone have any thoughts? Vgt or did my cleaning mess something up?
 
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Old Feb 9, 2016 | 12:50 PM
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VGT at 85% is a commanded value, not actual. Your seeing VGT@85% and have boost way up, would have told me that its stuck or at least, the vanes are not at 85% (closed).

Stab the throttle and boost comes on fast, let off fast, just as you feel it kick in, then let off fast... it should fart and boost should drop immediately, not slowly. Normally it operates without ever making a fart, what its supposed to do. But the fart would also indicate it moved the vanes in the correct direction.. stab it... boost comes on hard, get off the peddle fast, vanes close and excess pressure is discharged into the intake tube.. fart.

I test this theory all the time and at least a conscious effort to produce a fart at least weekly. Tells me the vanes are actually moving. I'm not smart enough to see boost at 14lbs and the vanes at 50%... because the 50% is commanded, not actual.

there will be comments that say this "fart" gauge doesn't really work... i don't have stuck vanes, I live in a high humidity area and have never cleaned the turbo. Exercising the vanes to this degree is no guaranty they aren't rusted, but they are moving and rapid enough to cause the fart... could be causing damage, I don't know for sure.... it works for my truck.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2016 | 07:03 PM
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Reason why I'm thinking vgt is today i started it when i got home.
At first start vgt was at 52%. It then proceeded to slowly come down to 24%. I went inside and came back out after about 10 minutes and it was at 85%.
Just feels like it's the solenoid or something. But again could be wrong. Cleaning sure didn't fix it the way i thought bit it did change the characteristics of the issue?
 
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Old Feb 9, 2016 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by KDAVID1
Reason why I'm thinking vgt is today i started it when i got home.
At first start vgt was at 52%. It then proceeded to slowly come down to 24%. I went inside and came back out after about 10 minutes and it was at 85%.
Just feels like it's the solenoid or something. But again could be wrong. Cleaning sure didn't fix it the way i thought bit it did change the characteristics of the issue?
Too bad you're so far away, the Turbo Test on IDS would be perfect for you

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Old Feb 9, 2016 | 07:35 PM
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You do have a leak you mentioned.. in the Y-pipe, that can mess things up.

I would think 24% at idle is pretty high, mine sits around 75% after starting the truck, even cold.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2016 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by WatsonR
You do have a leak you mentioned.. in the Y-pipe, that can mess things up.

I would think 24% at idle is pretty high, mine sits around 75% after starting the truck, even cold.
If the vanes are stuck, the PCM will command a lower % to open them up. For example, you would expect about 70% at idle, but if the vanes are stuck closed which would equal 85%, the PCM will command the opposite to open them up.

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Old Feb 9, 2016 | 08:04 PM
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I would agree

I would think, If your still having issues after a cleaning, the next step would be replace the VGT solenoid.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2016 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by WatsonR
I would agree

I would think, If your still having issues after a cleaning, the next step would be replace the VGT solenoid.
EBP and MAP will drive the VGT all wonky too.

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Old Feb 9, 2016 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by WatsonR
I would agree

I would think, If your still having issues after a cleaning, the next step would be replace the VGT solenoid.
I'm thinking.

Originally Posted by Bullitt390
Too bad you're so far away, the Turbo Test on IDS would be perfect for you

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That would be nice.

It's acting like something is loosing pressure and it bleeds off.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2016 | 08:24 PM
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Did you remove the VGT solenoid and reinstall without new o-rings?

After cleaning what is your hot idle EBP psi?

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