MSD Atomic EFI Installed
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This might be one of them
https://fordracingpartsbydonwood.com...ems-pass45104/
PASS53134 Mustang Performance Automatic AOD Transmission Ultimate Street Smart Package 390/428 | CJ Pony Parts
Of course they do make adapters, can even put a 700r4 in it
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https://fordracingpartsbydonwood.com...ems-pass45104/
PASS53134 Mustang Performance Automatic AOD Transmission Ultimate Street Smart Package 390/428 | CJ Pony Parts
Of course they do make adapters, can even put a 700r4 in it
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i got one years ago but never installed it yet. i cant remeber what the name of them is, but they are not much bigger then just the case of a np435
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This might be one of them
https://fordracingpartsbydonwood.com...ems-pass45104/
PASS53134 Mustang Performance Automatic AOD Transmission Ultimate Street Smart Package 390/428 | CJ Pony Parts
Of course they do make adapters, can even put a 700r4 in it..
https://fordracingpartsbydonwood.com...ems-pass45104/
PASS53134 Mustang Performance Automatic AOD Transmission Ultimate Street Smart Package 390/428 | CJ Pony Parts
Of course they do make adapters, can even put a 700r4 in it
..Yes.. Performance Automatic's AODE/4R70W system..: Performance Automatic
On the CJ Pony Parts offering, it's just an AOD.
But maybe the lowest buck way to get an AODE/4R70W is to opt for an adapter from Bendtsen's, a controller from Baumann (or whatever their name is now), and a decent 4R70W (with a black connector and two-bolt starter mount according to Ultraranger).. ....$600 for a controller and harness, $850 for an adapter plate, and like I dunno.. $300 for a transmission? The latter would still be a box of chocolates so let's assume $250 for a rebuild kit plus a new torque converter for the same amount. That's around $2,250.
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Yes.. Performance Automatic's AODE/4R70W system..: Performance Automatic
On the CJ Pony Parts offering, it's just an AOD.
But maybe the lowest buck way to get an AODE/4R70W is to opt for an adapter from Bendtsen's, a controller from Baumann (or whatever their name is now), and a decent 4R70W (with a black connector and two-bolt starter mount according to Ultraranger).. ....$600 for a controller and harness, $850 for an adapter plate, and like I dunno.. $300 for a transmission? The latter would still be a box of chocolates so let's assume $250 for a rebuild kit plus a new torque converter for the same amount. That's around $2,250.
On the CJ Pony Parts offering, it's just an AOD.
But maybe the lowest buck way to get an AODE/4R70W is to opt for an adapter from Bendtsen's, a controller from Baumann (or whatever their name is now), and a decent 4R70W (with a black connector and two-bolt starter mount according to Ultraranger).. ....$600 for a controller and harness, $850 for an adapter plate, and like I dunno.. $300 for a transmission? The latter would still be a box of chocolates so let's assume $250 for a rebuild kit plus a new torque converter for the same amount. That's around $2,250.
I went to their shop, in person, and bought the rebuild kit, 2500 stall converter, etc. and various parts to rebuild my 4R with myself. I still lack a few items, mainly new shift solenoids to complete the rebuild.
I picked up my wrecking yard '98 4R70W transmission, stock converter, stock transmission wiring harness, block plate and dipstick/tube from U-Pullit-It in Little Rock, AR for $138.00.
At the time I bought my transmission shift controller (2012 or '13), it was called an 'Optishift' and the company name at the time was Baumann Electronic Controls. Right after I bought my controller, the company name changed to 'U.S. Shift' and the controller was relabelled as the 'Quick 1.' --it's the same controller as what I have. It just has a different face plate.
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Besides the adapter, is anything else special needed for an FE to 4R70 conversion? Different flex plate maybe? Or is it just an adapter then bolt up the 4R70 and TC with TCM wired up and your good to go?
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Outside of whatever it takes to mount the transmission behind whatever engine a person might have, the 4R70W will work with either a fuel injected engine or with carburetion and you'll need a stand-alone shift controller.
The other thing you'll need is a TPS (Throttle Position Sensor) on the throttle plate --whether that's on a throttle body for an EFI engine or, whether a TPS is adapted/mounted to the throttle shaft on a carburetor. The shift controller has to have a throttle position input signal back to the controller.
....some photos and description of the 4R70W transmission I have.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post15464208
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Yes.. Performance Automatic's AODE/4R70W system..: Performance Automatic On the CJ Pony Parts offering, it's just an AOD. But maybe the lowest buck way to get an AODE/4R70W is to opt for an adapter from Bendtsen's, a controller from Baumann (or whatever their name is now), and a decent 4R70W (with a black connector and two-bolt starter mount according to Ultraranger).. ....$600 for a controller and harness, $850 for an adapter plate, and like I dunno.. $300 for a transmission? The latter would still be a box of chocolates so let's assume $250 for a rebuild kit plus a new torque converter for the same amount. That's around $2,250.
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Yes.. Performance Automatic's AODE/4R70W system..: Performance Automatic
On the CJ Pony Parts offering, it's just an AOD.
But maybe the lowest buck way to get an AODE/4R70W is to opt for an adapter from Bendtsen's, a controller from Baumann (or whatever their name is now), and a decent 4R70W (with a black connector and two-bolt starter mount according to Ultraranger).. ....$600 for a controller and harness, $850 for an adapter plate, and like I dunno.. $300 for a transmission? The latter would still be a box of chocolates so let's assume $250 for a rebuild kit plus a new torque converter for the same amount. That's around $2,250.
On the CJ Pony Parts offering, it's just an AOD.
But maybe the lowest buck way to get an AODE/4R70W is to opt for an adapter from Bendtsen's, a controller from Baumann (or whatever their name is now), and a decent 4R70W (with a black connector and two-bolt starter mount according to Ultraranger).. ....$600 for a controller and harness, $850 for an adapter plate, and like I dunno.. $300 for a transmission? The latter would still be a box of chocolates so let's assume $250 for a rebuild kit plus a new torque converter for the same amount. That's around $2,250.
Thanks for that info. I'm going to start looking into that. Also the GV unit, I just had this C6/torque converter rebuilt and the GV sounds like one of two good options here.
I don't have an FE in my truck so, don't know what all needs to be gathered/done there. My '69 Ranger just came with a little 240 inline six. I have a '90 Mustang GT 5.0L H.O. fuel injected engine the 4R70W can be installed behind or, I have an early 351W I could fuel inject instead, to install in front of the 4R70W.
Outside of whatever it takes to mount the transmission behind whatever engine a person might have, the 4R70W will work with either a fuel injected engine or with carburetion and you'll need a stand-alone shift controller.
The other thing you'll need is a TPS (Throttle Position Sensor) on the throttle plate --whether that's on a throttle body for an EFI engine or, whether a TPS is adapted/mounted to the throttle shaft on a carburetor. The shift controller has to have a throttle position input signal back to the controller.
....some photos and description of the 4R70W transmission I have.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post15464208
Nice job on tackling a trans rebuild yourself. I would most likely farm that out
..I see on the adapter kits, it does come with a new flexplate and starter, so good to know..
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This is what I did on my 64, running 466 with Holley terminator Efi 4R70w with a bendtsen adapter, optishift controller. Hands down 2 best mods I've done to my rig are the EFI and OD transmission. I have 3.50 gears and at 70mph I can get 16.5mpg. I run around 2200rpm and love it. Cost me approx $3000 with a dirty dog 2500 stall and a full rebuild with parts from silver fox trans.
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I may be pinging you in the future if I go this route. You have a build thread on this?
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Thanks for that info. I'm going to start looking into that. Also the GV unit, I just had this C6/torque converter rebuilt and the GV sounds like one of two good options here.
Nice job on tackling a trans rebuild yourself. I would most likely farm that out..
I see on the adapter kits, it does come with a new flexplate and starter, so good to know..
Thanks!
I may be pinging you in the future if I go this route. You have a build thread on this?
Nice job on tackling a trans rebuild yourself. I would most likely farm that out
..I see on the adapter kits, it does come with a new flexplate and starter, so good to know..
Thanks!
I may be pinging you in the future if I go this route. You have a build thread on this?
The rebuild is very straight forward. Feel free to PM me anytime I love to help when I can.
Build thread here
Project overdrive 4R70W to BBF - 460 Ford Forum
BTW I almost went with the MSD Atomic system but at the last minute switched to the holley setup as it was offering a better timing setup at the time. I'm glad you like yours it is a nice system.
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The MC is the only component in my brake system that has metric ISO bubble flares. I bubble flared the two lines going into the MC on that end and made (45°) SAE double flares on the other end of the lines where they go into the brake valve. The rest of the system's hard line connections are also double flared.