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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 12:54 PM
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I got most of my stuff from Off Road Warehouse, knowledge on the edge systems is not the greatest but they will not hesitate to put you in touch with someone at Donahue that will help you.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 01:01 PM
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Bob,

You'll find Edge has a minimum pricing policy, just sounds fancy thier all the same. BUT, I like to reward those who have the expertise, ask about your ultimate needs and then give thier reccomendation. And Marty has been very generous giving the best prices you'll find on stuff like ORU's dress up kits, stainless steel brake lines, carrier bearing kits,... I'd be lying if I told you he didn't include some little goodies free w/ a lift kit purchase. But, I didn't ask. I don't know of many others who don't give u something extra for supporting them. That's one of the main reasons I'm goin w/ Donahoe's Edge and OverKill. These guys aren't being greedy! I'm rewarding those who have committed themselves to these SD's like they have. It seems they really do have the products and expertise. Sometimes I can't understand why Kreg gets so involved this part of it. Marty, can handle it enough around here. But what a great way to run a business! He's so involved. I like it. I don't mind paying a little extra for a better product or service. They really are a slam dunk, especially if you've had to deal w/ other mod manufacturer's. Heck i can smell the stinch right when I call thier tech's about something. Tell you whatever u want to hear! Til they get your $$'s. Kind of a sign of the times i guess! I'm pretty green at this, I can't be ordering custom this and something for that to get this done. I don't like to be in here raving about this and that but will take this opportunity to do so just this one time. I just like to point the way and ppls can make up their own mind on what its worth to them.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 02:09 PM
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Ok, here is what I have and my needs
2002 F250 4X4 SD crewcab short bed with the 7.3 and 6" procrap lift with 35" BFGs

My needs.
1. Pull a 31" fifth wheel (going to look at three this afternoon) I don't know how I'm going to attach it to the lifted truck
2. light offroad. My main offroader is the jeep but I will do some exploring in the truck as well as get the jeep and the fifthwheel to the camp site. Rarley do I do campgrounds.
3. IT MUST have A decent ride that I don't need a kidney belt on the freeway.

All this being said, my wife really likes the lifted height and I do agree it is a very good looking rig. I get looks every day! That awful nice when your as ugly as I am
I'm looking for help here as I decided today , as I was driving down the freeway trying to take a sip of my coffee from the sipper cup without spilling it, to either get rid of the truck or fix it real soon. BTW I failed at the coffee. My middle school students didn't let me forget as you can imagine where the coffee splashed to .

On another post someone mentioned a 4.5 hanger kit and edge minipak or something. Can anyone elaborate?
If I go with the hangers, I'll need to find someone or a shop that has the take off springs and the other stuff I'll need. II have replacement ssssprings in both the front and the rear.
Will I have to put a stock pitman arm and track back relocator back on? I have Edge track adjustable track bar already?
Thaks VERY much for the help. My back also thanks you.
Bob
 
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 02:43 PM
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I’ll take a stab:
1. Make sure your axels can be flipped. This will gain some pin height.
2. / 3. I have/had both 4.5" and mini spring pack. The mini spring pack create a 2" lift under your springs, similar to blocks in the rear only SAFER. Currently have the 4.5" kit; ride is as good as stock or better. Zero complaints from me. The kit is installed with my stock springs front/rear. The overall height increase with tires is 6".
Go to WWW.Donahoeracing.com look for distributors/installers in your area. I used Dependable off road in Anaheim.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 02:54 PM
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1. Make sure your axels can be flipped. This will gain some pin height.
Most of the newer ffifth wheels have the axles flipped already so I may have to use blocks. I've also heard of people using spring hangers to lift the fifth wheels.
BOb
 
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 03:04 PM
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Bob,

When it comes to towing a large travel trailer it is wise to be conservative on lift. You don't want crosswinds causing undue stress on what are supposed to be leisurely trips. The 4.5" kit will provide adequate clearance for the 35s. If you are looking for a taller stance then adding the 2" mini spring packs will give you the look you desire without increasing spring rate and adversely effecting ride quality. The disadvantage of the 4.5" + 2" combo is that it does not provide the wheel travel or progressive spring rate of the 6" Edge kit. If off-road capability was of greater concern then I would suggest the 6" spring kit. However you can't beat the on-road ride quality of the 4.5" kit.

You shouldn't have a problem finding OE springs, as most shops sell them for scrap. The Edge box kit includes a drop pitman arm and track bar brackets so there is no need to locate the original pieces.

Hope this helps.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 03:35 PM
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Overkill, are you a dealer?
If so please email me a price for this stuff including shipping to 93312.
Is it possilbe to buy just the parts I need and not all the other parts that are on my truck already from the procomp lift?
Also IS a hanger lift a hanger lift? In other words? IT seems that the Edge springs are superior. But if there is a less expensive hanger kit why not go for that one? Especially if I'll be keeping most of the hardware that is on my truck already.
Again bob@thebassetts.us
Thanks
BOb
 
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 03:44 PM
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Originally posted by Overkill
Bob,

it does not provide the wheel travel or progressive spring rate of the 6" Edge kit.

Hope this helps.
Marty,

What do u mean by wheel travel? U said one time I should have approximately 12" of useable wheel travel w/ the 8" lift and 37" PJ's on 17x9 M/T II's.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 04:28 PM
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i just put an RCD dual shock on mine along with 36" dirt grips and 16x`10 eagles...the entire project only cost $4k
 
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 04:32 PM
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Tankhead,
Wheel travel is how far a wheel/tire travels from full droop to full compression.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by SouthBay420
i just put an RCD dual shock on mine along with 36" dirt grips and 16x`10 eagles...the entire project only cost $4k
RCD doesn't make a kit for my truck. Build date 4/98, had it since 6/98. RCD doesn't think I'm important enough to fab a kit for us early 99 users. They ran the numbers I'm sure. But Kreg doesn't worry about producing a kit for a relatively small number of SD's in the market. You guys are kinda subsidizing the higher cost of producing such a small # of units. Or maybe he just takes a hit in higher production costs.

I think I might still had the e-mail of the contact person, on their web-site for information, who gave me part numbers for the wrong kit before I had to tell him those were wrong and there doesn't seem to be a kit available. Makes u wonder. I did. No but seriously, see some of the problems I ran into and feel good, and literally thankful, about rewarding Donahoe Racing w/ a purchase on my lift kit and other goodies for not forgettin about us early 99 users.
 

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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 05:43 PM
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may be wrong, but i believe pre 99 means the kit does not include the blocker bar.

still best bet is to buy another brand that will cost you WAY less cash.... this guy might make a fair product, but why spend mucho extra dollars if you don't need to?
 
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 05:54 PM
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I don't know. I though it was the size of the leafs, axletube or something like that (4 7/8" versus 4 5/8"). But I hear what ya sayin. Just not me. And I want a better product this time around. Maybe go the cheaper route w/ another mod. Can't u tell by some of the crap I've bought!
 
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by Scratch
Is it possilbe to buy just the parts I need and not all the other parts that are on my truck already from the procomp lift?
Bob,

Yes, but would you really want to do so?

Also IS a hanger lift a hanger lift? In other words? IT seems that the Edge springs are superior. But if there is a less expensive hanger kit why not go for that one? Especially if I'll be keeping most of the hardware that is on my truck already.
Not all hanger lifts are created equal! The Edge hangers are extremely well engineered and built to withstand severe abuse. This is obvious when you hold the 45 lbs. hangers in hand. Also, unlike most the kit includes a replacement shackle in leu of a relocation bracket. Never the less the Edge hangers are actually less expensive than other popular options.

Hope this helps.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 06:46 PM
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well... there are diffs between the year model superduties.... things like front axle (50 or 60), drag link (earlier models used a thicker bar i believe), etc....

BUT... when it comes to a suspension product... i think the only diff between a pre 99 kit and one for a later model superduty is the blocker bar.

more expensive doesn't always mean better, but i am sure if someone out there buys the most expensive thing on the market, he will defend it as the best.... right or wrong, it makes no difference, they are trying to justify the higher amount spent.

donahoe talks a lot of crap to me... it is cool and i have no worry with him doing that as it is a defense mechanism against a person that speaks the truth.

i don't think i have ever put down his product and i hope i never have put him down directly... no need for me to stoop to his level.

my point is that you guys could be getting just as much suspension as you'll ever need for a lot less money!
 
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