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I know exactly what your talking about before I replaced orings I ran truck and saw the minimum spatter.
Now each injector pukes 1/8 diameter of continuous oil I'll give air test a shot thou.
Youtube vidio of oil stream got it listed as 03 f350 6.0
Listed by Jeff Johnson
video is shot upside down FF to 1:30
You can't diagnose a high pressure oil leak without an air test. Live data that includes the ICP_Desired PID can help, but air test is still what you need to be doing.
Running the engine with the valve covers off not only makes a huge mess(because the injectors are constantly shooting oil out the top of them), but it is nearly impossible to even see the top of the injector with the oil rail torqued down. There just isn't enough room. Believe me, we have walked a Ford master tech through this exact same process. They air tested and sure enough... This mysterious oil streaming from the area on top of the injector is in fact coming from the injector itself, by design.
An air test is the only way to truly tell if you have an hpo leak.
If the truck is running, chances are, you don't have a leak.
If you have had the nipple cups out multiple times we should probably send you a new set of O-rings. Send me a PM with your full name and address and I'll send you a new set. I don't want a compromised set of our o-rings on the road. The nipples are lifetime warranty also.
I can send you the links to the parts for the air test setup if you want? You can make it for under $20
New Nipple cup orings put in have not been taken out they good.
link to the 2003 6.0 air test parts be great Thx.
Shoot a good clear video ow what your seeing and post it on Youtube and place
the link to that video in your post. Just be sure to set the video as public and not
private. Also try to get more than a 15 sec shot.
You can't diagnose a high pressure oil leak without an air test. Live data that includes the ICP_Desired PID can help, but air test is still what you need to be doing.
Running the engine with the valve covers off not only makes a huge mess(because the injectors are constantly shooting oil out the top of them), but it is nearly impossible to even see the top of the injector with the oil rail torqued down. There just isn't enough room. Believe me, we have walked a Ford master tech through this exact same process. They air tested and sure enough... This mysterious oil streaming from the area on top of the injector is in fact coming from the injector itself, by design.
An air test is the only way to truly tell if you have an hpo leak.
If the truck is running, chances are, you don't have a leak.
If you have had the nipple cups out multiple times we should probably send you a new set of O-rings. Send me a PM with your full name and address and I'll send you a new set. I don't want a compromised set of our o-rings on the road. The nipples are lifetime warranty also.
I can send you the links to the parts for the air test setup if you want? You can make it for under $20
I picked up air test parts and air tested rail after some what warmed up it's not leaking air although I only had 95 psi.
Idk why it has so much more oil then before but don't matter.
However I still have no hot start and want to put a air test to the rest of the system by back feeding the braided oil supply line that feeds oil rail do I need to close the IPR to do this test?
It's a 03 so IPR not really Accessible
IPR is the exact same spot 03 thru 07, ICP is the diff on early builds. Your going to have to get to the IPR, yes......need to be able to command it. Several vids on this it's not hard.
I think others here will tell you to test it thru the ICP port, I am betting your HPOP is about to go south for the winter or you have a bad o-ring leak on discharge tube or under the pump. More than likely the HPOP.....early builds it's pretty much a signature feature.
If you test it on the rail you're trying to displace ALL the oil in the rail, and eventually will likely see a leak on top of injectors.
Sean, like we talked about back in August, you have seen it as normal after many minutes of testing at the rail you will have a leak since NO OIL to displace the air is left?
This was the case with mine as well....and I am reaching north of 3800 psi at WOT after I R and R'd the HPOP. I replaced the rail o-rings and the top injector seals.
I don't know that 95 pounds shop air will cut it but what do I know.
There is a reason builders test them at the ICP or IPR ports and suggest that we do so as well.
If it was easier to just access the oil rail we would all do it this way.
[QUOT E=navistarnut;15907438]IPR is the exact same spot 03 thru 07, ICP is the diff on early builds. Your going to have to get to the IPR, yes......need to be able to command it. Several vids on this it's not hard.
I think others here will tell you to test it thru the ICP port, I am betting your HPOP is about to go south for the winter or you have a bad o-ring leak on discharge tube or under the pump. More than likely the HPOP.....early builds it's pretty much a signature feature.
If you test it on the rail you're trying to displace ALL the oil in the rail, and eventually will likely see a leak on top of injectors.
Sean, like we talked about back in August, you have seen it as normal after many minutes of testing at the rail you will have a leak since NO OIL to displace the air is left?
This was the case with mine as well....and I am reaching north of 3800 psi at WOT after I R and R'd the HPOP. I replaced the rail o-rings and the top injector seals.
I don't know that 95 pounds shop air will cut it but what do I know.
There is a reason builders test them at the ICP or IPR ports and suggest that we do so as well.
If it was easier to just access the oil rail we would all do it this way
Thanks for your quick reply and info
HPOP was changed 100k ago maybe that's all they good for Idk
Guess I will start to break Passenger Side down to valve cover to do air test properly.
Anyone know if 95 psi will cut it or am I buying a better compressor?
Don't take the passenger side valve cover off just yet! Good grief you might not even need to take it off.
100k from an early style HPOP is not out of the question. Some go longer, some won't even go that long.
Don't put the cart before the horse and go ripping off that valve cover.
The odds are it's the HPOP, unless you really want to see what it looks like under the passenger side valve cover of a 6.0 you might be wasting your time.
It's not as easy as the drivers side for starters.
Don't take the passenger side valve cover off just yet! Good grief you might not even need to take it off.
100k from an early style HPOP is not out of the question. Some go longer, some won't even go that long.
Don't put the cart before the horse and go ripping off that valve cover.
The odds are it's the HPOP, unless you really want to see what it looks like under the passenger side valve cover of a 6.0 you might be wasting your time.
It's not as easy as the drivers side for starters.
I have no desire to see something I don't have to so your saying I can do air test without pass side off?
My ICP is under and behind turbo and IPR as well is in the same neighborhood I'm pretty sure.
Just remove turbo I'm good for air test?
I have no desire to see something I don't have to so your saying I can do air test without pass side off?
My ICP is under and behind turbo and IPR as well is in the same neighborhood I'm pretty sure.
Just remove turbo I'm good for air test?
I'm no expert by any means, but I just went though HPOP issues on an early build 03 a couple weeks ago. Don't take your passenger side valve cover off yet, its completely unnecessary. The turbo isn't a requirement either to do an air test but it certainly makes it a hell of a lot easier. I learned the hardway to with these HPOPs. like they say, the early ones tend to get weaker before they completely fail, unlike the newer ones that just die. Do the air test and check that avenue. I would definitely get some kind of live data app. I bought torque pro and the blue tooth adapter, a total of 2 bucks. It confirmed everything I needed to know without doing an air test. its worth its weight in gold. Good luck , hope you figure it out soon.
I'm no expert by any means, but I just went though HPOP issues on an early build 03 a couple weeks ago. Don't take your passenger side valve cover off yet, its completely unnecessary. The turbo isn't a requirement either to do an air test but it certainly makes it a hell of a lot easier. I learned the hardway to with these HPOPs. like they say, the early ones tend to get weaker before they completely fail, unlike the newer ones that just die. Do the air test and check that avenue. I would definitely get some kind of live data app. I bought torque pro and the blue tooth adapter, a total of 2 bucks. It confirmed everything I needed to know without doing an air test. its worth its weight in gold. Good luck , hope you figure it out soon.
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