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Old 10-04-2015, 02:30 PM
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TC not locking

Funny shifts and OD light blinking. Have p0741 and p0743 codes. Checked wiring and no visible damage. Checked continuity on the purple-yellow TC wire from connector under hood and at Trans and their is none.?? Please advise.

Also will I hurt the Trans driving this way if the temp stays in check?
 
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Old 10-04-2015, 02:44 PM
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Can't help with your problem but...........

My 1988 Suburban was having trans troubles where the TC would lock and unlock twice a mile and a trans shop showed me how to make my TC never lock up and that was this spring. It only runs a couple hundred rpm higher and tiny noticeable loss in mileage, maybe .5 mpg less. But what's 13.5 from 14? Trans temps have been fine but I don't tow with it either.
 
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Old 10-04-2015, 05:11 PM
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TSB says:

2001-2002 Trucks with 4R100 Torque Converter Clutch Solenoid Codes:
Some trucks build between 1-1-01 to 5-1-02 may exhibit a flashing OD light and possibly harsh shifting, with any or all of the following trouble codes: P0740, P0741, P0743, P1744. This may be due to high resistance in the torque converter clutch solenoid, which results in lower torque converter lock pressures. The transmission solenoid body should be replace with P/N F81Z-7G391-CB to correct. Broadcast Message 3559

This has fixed the problem for MANY guys with your same symptoms/codes. Best price I could find just now was
Amazon.com: F81z7g391cb Solenoid Assembly Oem Ford: Automotive Amazon.com: F81z7g391cb Solenoid Assembly Oem Ford: Automotive
 
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Originally Posted by milehi_350
Checked wiring and no visible damage.
Visibly checking the wiring harness will only find the most obvious problem.

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Checked continuity on the purple-yellow TC wire from connector under hood and at Trans and their is none.?? Please advise.
You just proved that your visual check was a waste of time. You've located the problem, it is a broken wire in the stretch you checked. You can try to find the problem spot and fix it, but I'd just run a new wire.

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Also will I hurt the Trans driving this way if the temp stays in check?
No, it will not.
 
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Old 10-04-2015, 06:54 PM
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Thank you for your input Mark. I will replace wire and update.
 
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Old 10-13-2015, 07:06 PM
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So I replaced wire and it's still not locking. Where do I go from here?
 
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Refer to the TSB next is what I would do.
 
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Is their a way to check resistance on the solenoid, and if so what should it be? I'd hate to replace the solenoid pack if it's still good. Maybe just a case of debris stuck in their.?
Found this video of a complete tear down and the guy mentions it around 17:30.
 
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Is their a way to check resistance on the solenoid, and if so what should it be? I'd hate to replace the solenoid pack if it's still good. Maybe just a case of debris stuck in their.?
Found this video of a complete tear down and the guy mentions it around 17:30.





 
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The resistance should be 10-20 ohms, as you have a PWM TCC solenoid.
 
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Thanks guys. Can I test at the connector outside the Trans or can it only be done by dropping the pan and checking the pack?
 
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Thanks guys. Can I test at the connector outside the Trans or can it only be done by dropping the pan and checking the pack?
The Connectors are external of the Case.
 
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Old 10-15-2015, 08:11 AM
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Well, now it won't go into drive. Backed out of driveway to go to work and stalls every time I shift to drive. I backed around the block and back in driveway now.
 
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I also found this diagram that gives wire colors. My connector does not match this or the one shown in the post above, so not sure what to check.

 
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Checking the Violet/yellow with every other, I get nothing.
 

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