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Old Sep 13, 2015 | 08:54 PM
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Cheap factory tires??

Just replaced factory tired at 37500 on my 2012 SD. General Grabbers. Really surprised they didn't last longer. Does the factory use cheaper tired just to keep costs down?
Replaced with stock Michelin LTX M/S2's. The Michelins on my wife's Edge seem to be wearing well. Hoping I have the same luck.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2015 | 09:11 PM
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Normally factory tires are good, with JIT manufacturing they're probably newer than the stuff you find on the racks at a local store just because of the volume that gets moved through the factory. Defiantly wouldn't be blems or seconds with big the contracts are, there's too much money riding on the million+ tires Ford will use up in a year to risk it on sneaking through seconds that can get sold at full price through Wal Mart.

Tire's are weird with how long they last. Even something mundane like how many traffic lights you turn right out will make your tires wear different from somebody else. Some people swear tires like 80,000 miles but that same set on another truck won't make 40k.

I got 45k each out of my first two sets from two different manufacturers, I'm fine with that for my use. 37k might be low, are you up on pressures, rotating and all the normal maintenance?
 
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Old Sep 13, 2015 | 09:14 PM
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How much weight do you carry on them? Also, location matters. Tires don't last as long in the southern heat of Florida, for example, as they will up north.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2015 | 09:30 PM
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I'm in Colorado. Only have towed about 3k of those miles and haven't loaded it down too heavy more then a dozen times. I'm a pretty easy driver for the most part.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2015 | 09:45 PM
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I just read that the LT Generals are only warranted to 45K miles, unlike S that are rated to 60K. Not sure why, but I'm sure it has to do with the weight of these trucks.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2015 | 09:52 PM
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I might have been able to squeeze another thousand or two out of them, but not going into the winter up here. I guess I'm surprised mainly because I haven't been utilizing the truck to its capacity.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2015 | 06:06 AM
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My stock Continental tires have over 65K. Of course they don't do much in any kind of weather.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2015 | 08:15 AM
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Here's something many people might not know about their tires.....

Tires that come with the vehicle off the assembly line are typically different than the tires you buy at a store or dealer.

Vehicle manufacturers often specify how they want the tires built, mostly done in a way to save weight (think EPA and fuel economy) and minimize noise (think better test drive and initial customer impression). This means changing the compound to something that's typically softer and will wear faster.

Tire manufacturers oblige and build the tires to OEM specs. But if you buy the same tire to replace them, they will almost always be a different compound and typically last longer.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2015 | 09:16 AM
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I had heard something similar to that. I don't doubt it a bit. I've also heard that club, Sam's/Costco tires have similar differences and that's why they are cheaper have a harder time believing that.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2015 | 12:57 PM
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I had heard something similar to that. I don't doubt it a bit. I've also heard that club, Sam's/Costco tires have similar differences and that's why they are cheaper have a harder time believing that.
Why? Lots of stuff sold by big-box stores are like that. It'll be a little cheaper than a 'regular' store, but it'll be made with cheaper components.

Lincoln Electric welders are like this. Lawn Mowers are the same.

They buy enough volume that they can demand a greater discount, and manufacturers will have a separate production run for them.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2015 | 01:46 PM
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I had heard something similar to that. I don't doubt it a bit. I've also heard that club, Sam's/Costco tires have similar differences and that's why they are cheaper have a harder time believing that.
If they are the same part number as the regular tire stores, then they are the exact same identical tires.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2015 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Pocket
Here's something many people might not know about their tires.....

Tires that come with the vehicle off the assembly line are typically different than the tires you buy at a store or dealer.

Vehicle manufacturers often specify how they want the tires built, mostly done in a way to save weight (think EPA and fuel economy) and minimize noise (think better test drive and initial customer impression). This means changing the compound to something that's typically softer and will wear faster.

Tire manufacturers oblige and build the tires to OEM specs. But if you buy the same tire to replace them, they will almost always be a different compound and typically last longer.
I can actually prove this.

I have a 2012 Hyundai Accent that I use as a commuter. It has, as of today, 95k miles on it. At 22k I had to replace the OEM Kumho tires. I purchased the OEM tires from a tire dealer. At 87k miles, I had to replace them again. I removed those tires, replaced with a set of low rolling resistance firestones.

I still had the 22k mile tires, and the tires that were replaced at 87k. I used a reciprocating saw and cut one tire from each group in half. I found that the OEM tires had fewer metal strands in the radial bands and the thickness of the rubber between the band and the tire's interior was far thinner than the second set of tires. Also, the rubber of the OEM tires had far less distance between the bands and the lowest depth of the treaded area.

I took some pics, and will post them when I figure out what device I used.... lol...
 
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