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Old Aug 24, 2015 | 09:23 AM
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I am getting a '64 F-250 tomorrow that according to the warranty plate should have a 292 cu in engine. This engine has the distributor in the front. Did any of the 292s have front distributors? If it is a ford engine how do you ID what it is?
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Old Aug 24, 2015 | 10:51 AM
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It's not a Y block with a distributor in the front. Period. FE swaps are very common. You could start with a photo of it posted here!

Congrats on the new truck!

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Old Aug 24, 2015 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by john jamieson
I am getting a '64 F-250 tomorrow that according to the warranty plate should have a 292 cu in engine. This engine has the distributor in the front. Did any of the 292s have front distributors? If it is a ford engine how do you ID what it is?
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You sure this is a 1964?

ALL Y blocks (239/256/272/292/312) have the dizzy behind the carb. FE engines introduced in 1965 have the dizzy in front of the carb, with 5 valve cover bolts per side.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2015 | 11:42 AM
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it could be a windsor engine, too. maybe a 302? but probably if it was swapped in later.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2015 | 04:30 PM
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I'll get some pics and try to post them tonight. ND decoded the warranty plate in an earlier post. This is what I wrote down before. I'll double check it tonight.

F250CR554807
128 N F250 E81 F 24
7500 135 3800 71
 
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Old Aug 24, 2015 | 04:36 PM
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Here's the post where ND decoded it. Although is doesn't really matter here the VIN should be F25CRxxxxxx, not F250CRxxxxxx. As long as your DMV has it correct....


https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...te-decode.html


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Old Aug 25, 2015 | 08:14 PM
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No pics yet. I was talking to a neighbor who new the PO and he told me that the PO said the truck had a 390.
The carburator looks like a 2 barrel. The carb ID tag is stamped:

Motorcraft
D4PE JA
A 4G 3
Maybe the info will help date the engine
 
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Old Aug 26, 2015 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by john jamieson
No pics yet. I was talking to a neighbor who new the PO and he told me that the PO said the truck had a 390.
The carburator looks like a 2 barrel. The carb ID tag is stamped:

Motorcraft D4PE JA
This is a 1974 2100 series Motorcraft 2V, but there's no prefix of D4PE that has a suffix of JA.

Look at the ID number again, because 1974 F100/350 360/390 2V: D4TE-JA

And you should not use the carb to ID the engine size, because it could also have been changed.

FE engines have 5 valve cover bolts per side, 289/302/351W have 6, 429/460's have 7, 351C/351M/400's have 8.
 
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Thanks for the responces. The Id tag is definately stamped: D4PE JA. The valve covers are 5 bolt type covers. The air cleaner and valve covers are Ford blue but I can't make out anything on the air cleaner cover label. I have pictures uploaded from my camera but I haven't figured out how to reduce the picture size on the files before sending them. (my last computer died and I'm using an older one given to me.)
 
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John, Best to upload your photos to a photo hosting site and link them here. This site will adjust.


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Are there any outward things that distinguish a 390 from a 350 or 360? Casting numbers?
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No 350, perhaps you mean 352. Short version: no. Casting numbers visible externally would be the same in any give year for the most part for 360/390s.

352 casting numbers were probably different, heads maybe too. But you have to have either a '66 or '67 motor to have a 352 painted blue as OEM.

In '66, Ford starting painting all engines the "Ford Blue" that you probably have on your motor. If we assume it's the OEM paint job, that makes it a '66 or later. If we assume further that the carb tag you posted is OEM, that makes it a 1974. IF it is a 1974, there is nothing external to differentiate it. 390 and 360 motors were identical externally, and except for the crank, rods and pistons, identical internally as well. (same cams and valve gear etc)

The last year for the 352 was 1967. The 360 and 390 were intro'd in trucks in '68. '66 and '67 352s and 390s were probably almost identical as well, although my guess is the 352 wore the 2bbl and 390s mostly had a 4bbl. Maybe.
 
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390's in F100/350's not available with 4V until 1974, then only as an option.

1968/76 360's, 1968/73 390's only available with 2V's, as were 1965/67 F100/350 352's.
 
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John - I also live in Tucson and I have an FE in my '66 F100, and a small block in my Mustang. If you'd like to stop by I can show you how to identify your engine. Let me know if you'd like teo set something up.
 
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Thanks everyone.
SuperSabre, once I get it running I will definately set something up with you. This truck sat for over a year and a half and now just cranks over unless I pour some fuel in the carb. I suspect that things are varnished and clogged in the carb.
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