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Old Aug 16, 2015 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by xr7gt390
When I've narrowed down my choices I look at what's most American.

Ram - Owned by a foreign company, some trucks built in Mexico & some built in Michigan.
Chevy - an American company, trucks built in Mexico.
Ford - American Company, Trucks made in America.

I'm sending my American dollars to an American company who builds American trucks in America. That's just me.

The list from Kogod School of Business.
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Um what? I live in Fort Wayne. Do you need a picture of where Silverado and Sierra's come from? Hint, the ones sold here in Fort Wayne ride between 8 and 12 miles on a truck.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2015 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by xr7gt390
When I've narrowed down my choices I look at what's most American.

Ram - Owned by a foreign company (FIAT), some trucks built in Mexico & some built in Michigan.
Chevy - an American company, trucks built in Mexico.
Ford - American Company, Trucks made in America.

I'm sending my American dollars to an American company who builds American trucks in America. That's just me.
Here's a couple you missed:
Toyota Tundra = Assembled in San Antonio TX / Nissan Titan = Assembled in Corinth MS

The first digit of the VIN is the country of origin. 1 = USA / 2 = Canada / 3 = Mexico.

At one time, the North American parts content (includes Canada, but not Mexico) of the Tundra was higher than the F150.

The F150's A/T is cast in Mexico, the Fusion is assembled in Mexico. The Edge and Flex are assembled in Oakville Ontario Canada as are the rebadged Lincoln versions.

Meanwhile, you're shopping for clothes, electronics and etc. Where are most made? Asia!
 
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Old Aug 16, 2015 | 07:18 PM
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I have to disagree, unless you have a dealership that sells all three. When you have a good relationship with your selling dealership and salesman you can have a much better experience if something should ever happen. You also are more likely to be treated well upfront in the purchasing process and get genuine assistance picking the smartest rebate packages. I've done some pretty crazy things to help out loyal customers. This does require a more career orientated and customer service focused salesperson, but I think I make myself very worthwhile even if a Ford cost more than a Ram and do make it easier if you have a problem.
This is very true. Which is why my wife drives a 2014 Buick Regal. Kelley Buick/GMC in Fort Wayne has been the most awesome dealership experience we've ever had. They've gone above and beyond for any reason, we get a loaner for anything (including an oil change), and when our car was rear ended this summer and spent a month in the body shop, our sales guy gave us a loaner 2015 Buick Regal Turbo AWD for the entire month, even though we don't have rental coverage. We recently took it in for a squeak in the steering wheel, and they gave my wife a 2015 loaded out Buick Enclave as a loaner, even though they only needed the car for about 3 hours for the repair.

On the flip side, I have my Fiesta from Bob Thomas Ford North in Fort Wayne, and mostly serviced by Bob Thomas Ford West. My experience is well known for the transmission being an issue, as it was for most Fiesta drivers. All trips in for repair result in me arranging my own transportation, my "loaner" option is a free ride to enterprise. And I have a car, that after 6 different software flashes, and a refusal to repair due to being "within parameters" drives the worst of any vehicle I've ever driven, and sadly, I own it. My pushing with customer service only got me a letter stating that grinding and shuddering are normal noises and experiences for this type of car. I have had two separate occasions of people at intersections asking what was wrong with my car because it's making all kinds of grinding noises as I slow down, like some inexperienced teen that doesn't know how to shift. And when it's hot, like today, the car doesn't like 1st gear, so you may only be able to leave an intersection in 3rd gear and hope you get going fast enough that the people behind you don't catch up.

Dealer experience is worth A LOT. And at this point, the dealer has pretty much convinced me to not even look at the new F-150. I mean I like their looks, but Ford doesn't seem to be dealing as much on price as the others, and my only choice is to buy from Bob Thomas Ford (who owns the nearest 6 dealerships). If something goes wrong with a 40K truck, I can only imagine how they will treat me.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2015 | 08:50 PM
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I don't want to get into a war here. I included with my comment a list from Kogod School of Business which tries to determine the rankings of American made vehicles.

I know my Edge was made in Canada, I even mention that in this thread. I think I also mentioned when I get a new one, it will be made in Canada. I did not say I would exclude any product made in any other country. I am all for a global economy, however, I do like it when I can buy American (or at least partly Americain).

BTW, my whole surround sound system in my family room was Made In America.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2015 | 11:35 AM
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The Buick Regal according to AOL, is the most unsatisifying car sold in the US. More are turned in within 3 years than any other make, but what AOL didn't say is, that most Regal's are sold to rental car fleets.

As I recall, the Regal is based off the Opel Senator and the Saturn version was the Aura.
 
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