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Unsafe observation.
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From: south east kansas
buddy of mine here In Kansas( we have all sorts of dumbA$$es) put one of those big hooks on his bicycle, then wondered why he couldn't go fast, he hung the hook from the seat and it would brush the rear tire.
Tuned
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From: In the 860
Sadly, I do not believe these fads are isolated to certain regions.
The absurdly cambered "stanced" cars absolutely blow my mind. I do not understand the functional or cosmetic benefit of these modifications. Rubbing and dragging everywhere, destroying sheetmetal in the process. Not to mention I have seen this on cars with substantial engine/ performance work done; what kind of traction are you getting with 20% of the tread on the ground??? I don't don't see many pro mods running on spacer saver spares...
Yesterday I saw a 3rd gen Dodge 2500 Cummins, jacked up to the moon, with the right front wheel and associated hardware entirely liberated from the chassis. Not suprising as the offset of his wheels had them located entirely outside the wheel houses. What can a moment arm do for you???
The absurdly cambered "stanced" cars absolutely blow my mind. I do not understand the functional or cosmetic benefit of these modifications. Rubbing and dragging everywhere, destroying sheetmetal in the process. Not to mention I have seen this on cars with substantial engine/ performance work done; what kind of traction are you getting with 20% of the tread on the ground??? I don't don't see many pro mods running on spacer saver spares...
Yesterday I saw a 3rd gen Dodge 2500 Cummins, jacked up to the moon, with the right front wheel and associated hardware entirely liberated from the chassis. Not suprising as the offset of his wheels had them located entirely outside the wheel houses. What can a moment arm do for you???
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From: NorCal
In the reference above with the Dodge, it's the thickness of the wheel spacer plus the working section of tire relative to the ball joint against which the static or active force is applied. Basically, too much offset.. no brains, no headache.
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You may now do what you want with this thread, move it, roll it up and smoke it, what ever you want, I'm much less confused now.
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From: NE Texas
well, this is probably like throwing gas on a fire... but the guys who insanely jack up their trucks so that all the frame/weight, etc. is above any of the safety zones on passenger cars? If they get in an accident (and the way they drive them here, it's almost inevitable) they will hit any normal car above the door handles and slice right through them. Once upon a time it was illegal to modify your vehicle to bypass safety equipment. The excuse that "it's to make it better for 4-wheeling" is fine - if you keep it off the road. Driving a vehicle like that on a city street is irresponsible, like shooting into woods you can't see into... I think if one of my loved ones was killed by someone driving something like that, the driver better pray the cops get to him first.
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From: Knoxville, TN
Agreed. I think it should be a law in every state that a structurally functional bumper (i.e., something substantial enough to take the impact and contact the reinforced areas of normal vehicles rather than going over the top of them) be present at a standard ride height any time a lifted vehicle like that is driven on the street, similar to the way those bumper bars are required on the back of semi trailers to keep cars from going under them if they're rear-ended. If your bumpers (and headlights at night) aren't within a small tolerance around a set vertical position above the ground, it shouldn't be street-legal. Period.
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From: Calgary
X2 on both of the above. I believe vehicles are purpose built as a result if your vehicle is built to off road specs such as 4 wheeling or the racetrack that is where they should be used. Unfortunately a lot of vehicles are built to promote the operators ego and theres no ego class to compete in as it doesn't require a talent set. Need more gas for the fire?
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Agreed. I think it should be a law in every state that a structurally functional bumper (i.e., something substantial enough to take the impact and contact the reinforced areas of normal vehicles rather than going over the top of them) be present at a standard ride height any time a lifted vehicle like that is driven on the street, similar to the way those bumper bars are required on the back of semi trailers to keep cars from going under them if they're rear-ended. If your bumpers (and headlights at night) aren't within a small tolerance around a set vertical position above the ground, it shouldn't be street-legal. Period.
X2 on both of the above. I believe vehicles are purpose built as a result if your vehicle is built to off road specs such as 4 wheeling or the racetrack that is where they should be used. Unfortunately a lot of vehicles are built to promote the operators ego and theres no ego class to compete in as it doesn't require a talent set. Need more gas for the fire?
I saw one the other day with the severely angled rims. I would bet you couldn't get a deck of playing cards laid flat under the lowest part of the car. That cars gong to cause a major pileup when it hits it's first pothole. If one of these idiots ends up under my truck because they drive like morons, so be it.