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Old May 25, 2015 | 12:10 AM
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Can't make injector cap stop leaking!

Just picked up a 91 F250 last weekend. Truck shows 26,000 miles on the odometer. I'm not sure how many times it has rolled over.

Anyways the engine has a wobble while at idle, but clears up while driving, so I doing the standard air in fuel procedure.

I bought a injector install kit from a local diesel shop and installed all new hoses , o-rings, clamps, and caps. Now I have one cap that I can't get to stop leaking! I've pulled it off and inspected the o-rings, changed it with three other caps and all with the same results. Anybody have some insight on what to try next?

Oh the kit is made by Interstate-McBee, and usually their stuff is pretty good quality.
 
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Old May 25, 2015 | 12:30 AM
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Get yourself a pack of spare o-rings off amazon; you want Viton O-rings, size code 111. Should be $6 or so for a bag of 50.
If it leaks, replace it. even if it looks OK. These things are finicky.

My special technique is that I use lithium wheel bearing grease when assembling it; slather it liberally on the O-ring, top of the injector etc.
Put it together and give it a couple of hot-cold cycles to seat and see what happens.
It seems to work for me; The lithium grease(instead of vasoline) works much better and won't melt at high temps; I guess it provides an extra sealing layer or something? No clue. But it works.
 
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Old May 25, 2015 | 12:50 AM
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The o-rings are brand new with the kit. I'll try the grease and see what happens. I used oil before and I guess it didn't swell the o-rings.

The theory of putting oil/grease on the o-rings is the same as it is for an oil filter. It makes the rubber swell and seal. This is why you usually can't re-use o-rings.
 
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Old May 25, 2015 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Macrobb
Get yourself a pack of spare o-rings off amazon; you want Viton O-rings, size code 111. Should be $6 or so for a bag of 50.
If it leaks, replace it. even if it looks OK. These things are finicky.

My special technique is that I use lithium wheel bearing grease when assembling it; slather it liberally on the O-ring, top of the injector etc.
Put it together and give it a couple of hot-cold cycles to seat and see what happens.
It seems to work for me; The lithium grease(instead of vasoline) works much better and won't melt at high temps; I guess it provides an extra sealing layer or something? No clue. But it works.
I also used this trick. makes them click into place way easier also. had to redo mine after the first time just using oil.. leaked like crazy.
 
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Old May 25, 2015 | 08:44 AM
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Thanks for the help I'll try it today. Now if I can get the brakes bled I'll be in good shape!
 
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Old May 25, 2015 | 09:51 AM
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Good luck with the brakes! mine nickle and dimed me until I replaced everything short of the hard lines. replaced both calipers (sticking) soft lines, wheel cylinders, and bypassed the rear ABS valve because it was sticking too! pesky old truck brakes haha
 
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Old May 25, 2015 | 05:09 PM
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Everything is good with the front and I can get fluid through the rear I just can't get any pressure out of the rear lines. I have pressure and clean fluid at the valve on the frame rail by the steering column.

As far as the cap goes-I used some wheel bearing grease and of course it's still leaking. I guess maybe I stretched the o-rings too far when installing them or something. Looks like I'll be picking some new ones up.
 
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Old May 25, 2015 | 06:21 PM
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if you were close i'd gie you some. i ordered 50 viton o-rings from mcmaster carr for $13. I have tons of spares
 
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Old May 25, 2015 | 06:42 PM
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You might need to bypass the RABS valve to get the rears to work well. The RABS design on these trucks never really worked well from the factory and many owners bypass or otherwise disable the system. I believe if you take off the big nut on the unit there is a spring behind it that can be removed. Once the spring is out, it just fills up with brake fluid and the brakes will work better. (at least thats what I remember, I never had a problem bleeding mine out and just ignore the RABS light on the dash)
 
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Old May 25, 2015 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by tecgod13
You might need to bypass the RABS valve to get the rears to work well. The RABS design on these trucks never really worked well from the factory and many owners bypass or otherwise disable the system. I believe if you take off the big nut on the unit there is a spring behind it that can be removed. Once the spring is out, it just fills up with brake fluid and the brakes will work better. (at least thats what I remember, I never had a problem bleeding mine out and just ignore the RABS light on the dash)
I'm sure each scenario is different and i tried that, after reading through various posts on this forum to no avail. Now that i have bypassed it it has awesome brakes. I don't drive it in the snow so I can't vouch for the rear end touchiness but on pavement it's awesome now, super solid pedal. Oddly enough the brake and abs light went out, even with it bypassed. Before my rear brakes would hang up to the point of rolling smoke from the drums and it was all in that stupid RABS valve because everything else had been replaced.
 
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Old May 26, 2015 | 09:46 PM
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By RABS valve are you talking about the goofy nut on the master cylinder?
 
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Old May 27, 2015 | 07:57 AM
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No the RABS valve is located on the driver side frame rail underneath the cab. There is a bleed screw on it as well that some people probably forget about.
 
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Old May 27, 2015 | 10:24 AM
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Got it. I'll take the spring out and see if that helps with the brakes. I could care less about ABS so that doesn't matter to me.
 
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Old May 27, 2015 | 05:02 PM
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Got it. I'll take the spring out and see if that helps with the brakes. I could care less about ABS so that doesn't matter to me.
Thats where i was at with it. A new valve is $$ also. I pulled the spring out, it was still hanging up. Tried the bleeder and everything before I gave up and just bypassed it. now it brakes awesome.
 
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Old May 28, 2015 | 06:34 AM
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Thats where i was at with it. A new valve is $$ also. I pulled the spring out, it was still hanging up. Tried the bleeder and everything before I gave up and just bypassed it. now it brakes awesome.
What did you use to bypass it? Just a piece of brake line and two female ends?
 
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