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Old May 12, 2015 | 04:00 PM
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Been finding conflicting info when I search this subject. When I got this 2003 6.0 I changed the coolant. I thought I got the right stuff but now I am not sure. I got Zerex extended life coolant, Cat and Cummins spec for heavy duty diesel trucks (Red/Purple). Now I am reading GO-5 spec only. The egr cooler has been removed, if that makes a difference.
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Old May 12, 2015 | 04:05 PM
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I'm running the same stuff, ELC extended life coolant, red color, mine is made by Fleet Charge.
 
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Originally Posted by bobv60
Been finding conflicting info when I search this subject. When I got this 2003 6.0 I changed the coolant. I thought I got the right stuff but now I am not sure. I got Zerex extended life coolant, Cat and Cummins spec for heavy duty diesel trucks (Red/Purple). Now I am reading GO-5 spec only. The egr cooler has been removed, if that makes a difference.
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The Zerex red stuff is what I'm running. Be sure and get the concentrate and NOT the 50/50 mix.
 
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Thanks, I called Zerex today and they said that it is fine, the GO-5 is the factory spec and that is what SHOULD be in it. But the elc will work fine.
 
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Old May 12, 2015 | 05:38 PM
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The Zerex red stuff is what I'm running. Be sure and get the concentrate and NOT the 50/50 mix.
Yes, I used the non deluted and used distilled water
 
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Old May 12, 2015 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by npccpartsman
The Zerex red stuff is what I'm running. Be sure and get the concentrate and NOT the 50/50 mix.
what's wrong with the 50/50 mix? Wouldn't that eliminate the possibility of having an incorrect mixture ratio?
 
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Old May 13, 2015 | 06:46 AM
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if you used distilled water to flush the system, that would leave a certain amount behind that couldn't be drained. Adding 50/50 would then make the mixture about 75/25 water to coolant. Using pure coolant makes it closer to 50/50 and then just top up using water to finish.

You could flush with 50/50 and then it won't matter.
 
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Old May 13, 2015 | 08:06 AM
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what's wrong with the 50/50 mix?
you're paying for them to water down to your coolant......
 
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you're paying for them to water down to your coolant......
This- concentrate is about the same money as the 50/50 so you're really getting 2 gallons worth of coolant for your system when you buy a gallon of concentrate.
 
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Originally Posted by brandonrr
what's wrong with the 50/50 mix? Wouldn't that eliminate the possibility of having an incorrect mixture ratio?
50/50 is just the basic specification, if you live in the Great White North you need to actually read the bottle and put in the correct concentration for temperatures that you see.

Zerex G-05 can go up to 70% coolant/30% water for maximum freeze protection of -90*f, using 50/50 only goes to -34*f.
 
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Originally Posted by brandonrr
what's wrong with the 50/50 mix? Wouldn't that eliminate the possibility of having an incorrect mixture ratio?
When you flush your system there's no way to get all the water out. If you just drain the radiator you leave 50% (3.5 gallons) of the system capacity in. As previously stated if you refill with 50/50 mix you actually get a 75/25 water to coolant ratio.
 
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Go-5 coolant is a low silicate formula similar to the Ford "gold" that is factory fill in these trucks. Because of suspected issues with silicate fall out (precipitation) clogging the oil cooler and causing issues with EGR cooler, many prefer to use a completely silicate free coolant that meets the CAT EC-1 standard. Many trucks have logged many miles with the low silicate coolant without issues but the silicate free stuff eliminates any possibility of having those issues.

I agree you must have concentrated coolant not 50/50 premix to get the proper concentration when you service it.
Total cooling system capacity including the degas bottle is 27.5 qts. If you drain the radiator by the lower hose or the draincock you'll remove 1/2 the system capacity--about 14 qts. Therefore it takes 14 qts of 100% coolant added back to the system to get a 50/50 mix if you do a complete flush and fill.
 
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