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Old May 10, 2015 | 07:42 AM
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Black paste under EGR

Hello all and thanks in advance. I tried to search this forum for any ideas to my problem but I only got more confused so I decided to create a new post to get help from you guys!
My truck is completely stock. 2004 cc/lb, 237000 miles, head studs egr cooler and oil cooler replaced at 172000 by my local Ford dealer, original injectors, and few other parts over the years. I am the original owner and this is my daily driver.
Here's my problem.
The truck has been running great but last week while in stop and go traffic I noticed a small puff of black smoke while leaving a stop light. Again truck is running without a hiccup. When I got home I pulled the egr and it was very dirty. I cleaned it up but before I put it back in I wanted to clean the area where it goes when I saw there was some black, pasty material at the bottom of the well. I pulled as much out as I could and put the egr back in. The next day I still had a little smoke on acceleration. From what I've read it sounds like the egr cooler is bad. Is this a safe assumption?
I would like to repair this myself but after watching a few videos I'm not sure if I have enough patience to tackle such a big project.
I do plan on checking my coolant level today and I do have a scan gauge. I have noticed. That my deltas have been fluctuating more than normal. The highest I saw was a 12 degree difference. The truck is also running about 10 degrees hotter too. But it is getting warmer around here.
I hope I gave enough info.
Thanks again!
 
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Old May 10, 2015 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by garmford
Hello all and thanks in advance. I tried to search this forum for any ideas to my problem but I only got more confused so I decided to create a new post to get help from you guys!
My truck is completely stock. 2004 cc/lb, 237000 miles, head studs egr cooler and oil cooler replaced at 172000 by my local Ford dealer, original injectors, and few other parts over the years. I am the original owner and this is my daily driver.
Here's my problem.
The truck has been running great but last week while in stop and go traffic I noticed a small puff of black smoke while leaving a stop light. Again truck is running without a hiccup. When I got home I pulled the egr and it was very dirty. I cleaned it up but before I put it back in I wanted to clean the area where it goes when I saw there was some black, pasty material at the bottom of the well. I pulled as much out as I could and put the egr back in. The next day I still had a little smoke on acceleration. From what I've read it sounds like the egr cooler is bad. Is this a safe assumption?
I would like to repair this myself but after watching a few videos I'm not sure if I have enough patience to tackle such a big project.
I do plan on checking my coolant level today and I do have a scan gauge. I have noticed. That my deltas have been fluctuating more than normal. The highest I saw was a 12 degree difference. The truck is also running about 10 degrees hotter too. But it is getting warmer around here.
I hope I gave enough info.
Thanks again!
The EGR cooler failing will produce white smoke, with the increase in temperature and black smoke I think you may have an injector going south on you. Have you had it scanned for codes? You can have pending codes without a check engine light.
 
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Old May 10, 2015 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by garmford
Hello all and thanks in advance. I tried to search this forum for any ideas to my problem but I only got more confused so I decided to create a new post to get help from you guys!
My truck is completely stock. 2004 cc/lb, 237000 miles, head studs egr cooler and oil cooler replaced at 172000 by my local Ford dealer, original injectors, and few other parts over the years. I am the original owner and this is my daily driver.
Here's my problem.
The truck has been running great but last week while in stop and go traffic I noticed a small puff of black smoke while leaving a stop light. Again truck is running without a hiccup. When I got home I pulled the egr and it was very dirty. I cleaned it up but before I put it back in I wanted to clean the area where it goes when I saw there was some black, pasty material at the bottom of the well. I pulled as much out as I could and put the egr back in. The next day I still had a little smoke on acceleration. From what I've read it sounds like the egr cooler is bad. Is this a safe assumption?
I would like to repair this myself but after watching a few videos I'm not sure if I have enough patience to tackle such a big project.
I do plan on checking my coolant level today and I do have a scan gauge. I have noticed. That my deltas have been fluctuating more than normal. The highest I saw was a 12 degree difference. The truck is also running about 10 degrees hotter too. But it is getting warmer around here.
I hope I gave enough info.
Thanks again!
Park the truck nose down over night and pull the EGR to check again. It should be wet if it is the cooler. It may also be a little oil mixed with the soot from the CCV.
 
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Old May 11, 2015 | 08:05 PM
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Black paste under EGR

injector, boost or sensor issue. check for codes 1st.
 
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Old May 12, 2015 | 11:49 AM
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Probably just oil from the ccv system. Normal.
 
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Old May 13, 2015 | 02:44 PM
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I stopped by Auto Zone to have them scan the truck. The only thing they found was an inactive P0671. Something with the glow plug on cylinder one. Still blowing a small puff of black smoke taking off from a stop light. More so after the turbo spools up. I'm guessing an injector or a dirty turbo?
 
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Old May 13, 2015 | 03:23 PM
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guessing will cost you money
 
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Old May 14, 2015 | 09:06 AM
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Sounds like your EGR is sticking or failing.

Drive it til it throws the codes for the EGR then replace with a brand new one, not reman.

You can go a long time with one bad glow plug, or two, or three...
 
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