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Old Apr 21, 2015 | 05:39 PM
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Tire size/rating question

Guys, I've got a possible deal on four tires for my Excursion but not sure what the size and rating has to be.

I posted a tire question a couple of years ago ( https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ndation-2.html ) and apparently I now have the following on the truck:

"Michelin LTX A/T 2 Load range E tires that are size 265/75/16"

Is this EXACTLY what I have to have or is there some kind of leeway in any of the measurements?

The place that had them was closing so I never got the info but they were goodrich tires.

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Old Apr 21, 2015 | 05:56 PM
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This was a sticky issue for me when I first joined up here and was working on my Super Duty. Apparently, if I used anything less than an "E" on my pickup, the truck would automatically plow down a bus full of nuns transporting orphans and puppies. However by magic, "D" tires are just fine on an Excursion which is about the same weight or close enough.

My advice would be to not go below what the door sticker says.

Disclaimer: "E" on the truck has to do with the potential to haul cargo in the bed. But we've all seen about 1200 lbs of people pile out of an Excursion in the Wal Mart parking lot. So there's that.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2015 | 07:02 PM
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There is some leeway in the tire size. Guys run from 235's -305's on their stock rigs. 265/75/16 is the factory tire size. Which way do you want to go?

Load rating is up to you. I won't run anything but E rated tires, but I drag a trailer that throws 1500#'s of tounge weight on the hitch. Like mentioned above, don't go below the weight rating on the door jamb sticker. Just about any tire you can think of will have load rating/inflation pressure charts available. Stay within those recommendations. Tires are way too critical to take chances with, IMO.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2015 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by william_04_x
Tires are way too critical to take chances with, IMO.
Bingo. I couldn't agree more with that. People think.."Oh I can save $80 on a set of 4 tires...with these cheapos." Uhh, no thanks.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2015 | 08:54 PM
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Considering Ford even changed recommendations to use E rated tires instead of D - there is that. Like others here, anything but E rated tires are out of the question.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2015 | 08:54 PM
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My truck weighs 8270 lbs and I tow a 5 ton trailer. Allowing for ten (let's be realistic fifteen or so) percent tongue weight that's close to 5 tons on my truck.
Would load range d's work? Sure. Buuuut...

Radial tires don't have ten or eight plies. What tires use now is ply rating which is the tires equivalent in a bias ply. And it's also sort of meaningless.

The load range, effectively, gives you an idea of the tires construction as far as stiffness but is primarily there to let you know the maximum inflation pressure. It's the air in the tire that supports the load, not the tire. All the tire does is hold the air. All things being equal, a tire that handles more pressure will handle more load. Less pressure means more sidewall deflection which means more heat and a quicker failure.

The actual load index or load rating is the single most important factor in determining suitability for carrying weight. The load range will tell you the inflation pressure which is the second most important. A load range d tire will carry 3k per tire at 40 psi and be within its rating, but towing with that tire will be a very different experience than carrying 3000 lbs per tire on the same size lre tire at 60 or 70 psi.

At the same time, those trucks are gonna drive quite different unloaded as well.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2015 | 11:59 PM
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Ok, the sad part is that I have no clue about anything, I just drive so I'm going to start off by finding if they are E rated or not and then IF they are, probably come back and ask again.

As for the size, I have no idea what the difference is and whether it should be 235's, 265's or 305's

There are things I'm pretty good at, this ain't it

Thanks guys
 
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Old Apr 22, 2015 | 03:03 AM
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The tires you have on there now are pretty much the same size as what came on it. Do you like the look, or would you rather go a little taller? That is pretty much all up to personal preference as long as you aren't planning to get radically tall and tow hasteranger's load.

Your door sticker likely calls for "D" range tires, but that could be a product of the Ford bean counters trying to "soccer mom" the Excursion (like they did with the front springs). Excursions are heavy, heavy machines. I personally wouldn't want to attach a heavy trailer and load it up with 8 healthy adults and go screaming down the interstate at 80 mph on "D" tires in a crosswind...

When I get mine on the road, she'll be wearing "E" tires like my truck. It'll help me sleep better. And it might just save a nun. Or an orphan. Or a puppy.
 
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Originally Posted by IttyBittyX
Ok, the sad part is that I have no clue about anything, I just drive so I'm going to start off by finding if they are E rated or not and then IF they are, probably come back and ask again.

As for the size, I have no idea what the difference is and whether it should be 235's, 265's or 305's

There are things I'm pretty good at, this ain't it

Thanks guys

A tire size works like this;
265/75R16E
265 is the tires width measured in millimeters.
75 is the aspect ratio, meaning that the tire has a side wall that is 75% as tall as the tire is wide (265MM).
R signifies that it is a radial tire, you will be using radials on your EX, bias ply tires are kind of old school or trailer tires.
16 identifies the size rim the tire will fit on, the EX has factory 16" rims.
E is the load range, early EXs had factory spec'ed D rated tires but Ford later changed that to E load range as the spec for an EX.

So a 285/75R16E will be just a little wider (10MM wider) and a hair taller than the stock tire's size. It is a very popular size that many EX owners have upgraded to and it fits on the stock suspensions and fills the wheel wells better.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2015 | 06:49 AM
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285 75 16's are close to 33" in diameter. About 2" larger than stock. They will decrease cruising rpms but male acceleration a little slower. In my case they made the speedo accurate instead of 5 mph top high. They also rubbed my front fender liners at full lock.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2015 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by hasteranger
285 75 16's are close to 33" in diameter. About 2" larger than stock. They will decrease cruising rpms but male acceleration a little slower. In my case they made the speedo accurate instead of 5 mph top high. They also rubbed my front fender liners at full lock.
When I put the 285s on my 2000 V10 4x4 Excursion, they made the speedo inaccurate. Plus, there is a noticeable decrease in acceleration and overall pep, and towing is especially miserable.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2015 | 03:41 PM
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Guys, that sob sold the tires although he agreed to hold them for me so no tires for me.

I'll still go through your answers and see if I can learn and above all, remember things bu it's a no go for me.

People suck!

THanks for the quick replies though
 
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Old Apr 22, 2015 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by IttyBittyX
Guys, that sob sold the tires although he agreed to hold them for me so no tires for me.

I'll still go through your answers and see if I can learn and above all, remember things bu it's a no go for me.

People suck!

THanks for the quick replies though
Was his name Boris?
 
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Old Apr 22, 2015 | 06:14 PM
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Nope, Craig and it sucks
 
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