Notices
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 1987 - 1996 Ford F-150, F-250, F-350 and larger pickups - including the 1997 heavy-duty F250/F350+ trucks

Spindle removal from steering knuckle

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 30, 2015 | 06:09 PM
  #1  
Ford SD's Avatar
Ford SD
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 144
Likes: 1
Spindle removal from steering knuckle

I was making good progress getting down to the axle shafts and ball joints on my Dana 50 TTB on an '89 F250. I got to the spindle, removed the 5 nuts, but the spindle is completely froze to the knuckle. I tried the cold chisel and the block of wood method but nothing has budged it. This was after several applications of PB Blaster. I keep reading about using a spindle puller with a slide hammer. I just can't imagine that is going to bust that joint apart if pounding on it with a small sledge hammer and block of wood didn't break it loose. Any suggestions? I don't have anyway of heating it. Now is there room to swing a larger hammer. I already split a piece of landscape timber in 3 pieces smashing on it.
 
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2015 | 08:02 PM
  #2  
Nothing Special's Avatar
Nothing Special
Lead Driver
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 5,006
Likes: 72
From: Roseville, MN
I've got a method that's never failed me, but it is a little capital-intensive. The hard part is to get a steel plate with a hole that just barely fits over the spindle. I milled a hole in a piece of 3/8" steel because I have access to a milling machine at work. A hole saw could work too if you've got a LOT of patience.

Slip the plate over the spindle, putting some solid standoffs between the plate and something really solid on the steering knuckle. I used some pieces of 1/2" steel rod, but deep-well impact sockets work too.

Then slide the toothed washer that was between the two spindle nuts over the spindle and spin one of the spindle nuts snug against it. If all of that didn't make sense, what your going for is the spindle nut holding the plate against the steering knuckle. And it's helpful to put grease where the spindle nut contacts the washer.

Now take the spanner wrench for the spindle nut and tighten it down as tight as you can. In a perfect world putting that tension on the spindle would pull it right out of the knuckle, but if it was that easy you wouldn't be on here asking for help.

Now take a big hammer and smack the plate HARD right at the standoffs. Hit it once or twice on each standoff.

Then tighten the spindle nut again. Every time i've done this I've been able to just BARELY budge the nut after whacking the snot out of the plate. then keep repeating that cycle. As long as you're getting a little movement on the nut (and you're not bending the plate or mushrooming the standoffs) you're making a little progress. Eventually it will come.
 
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2015 | 08:08 PM
  #3  
andym's Avatar
andym
Post Fiend
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 19,402
Likes: 38
From: Bonita Springs FL
That's got to be the hardest possible way to remove the spindle. Here are two much easier ways:

Rent a slide hammer with a spindle puller attachment from the auto parts store. 4-5 good hits and it will come off.

Use a 3-jaw puller. Put the spindle nut back on and hook the jaws around the nut. Position the center of the puller against the end of the stub shaft. It will come off pretty easy.
 
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2015 | 08:25 PM
  #4  
sawmilllifer's Avatar
sawmilllifer
Freshman User
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
From: Cumberland BC
We use to pull off tons of them in the early 80's by taking a foot long 2x4 plaing the edge against the spindle about 4 inches out and alternating whacks with a baby Huey hammer, sounds primative but it won't hurt the threads because the wood is tons softer than the steel threads , it comes off easily once the rusty seal s broken and it really doesn't take more than a couple of good whacks , I regularly break u joints on my Dana 44 and the spindle is still in excellent shape, but use only if the other gear is not available or you are really stuck.
 
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2015 | 08:30 PM
  #5  
Diesel_Brad's Avatar
Diesel_Brad
Fleet Owner
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 21,437
Likes: 76
From: Gilbert, PA
Originally Posted by andym
......

Rent a slide hammer with a spindle puller attachment from the auto parts store. 4-5 good hits and it will come off.

.........


Agreed. Auto zone sells one that fits dana 44, D44HD, D50 and D60

part number 27104 is the socket that threads onto the spindle then the slide hammer threads onto it
 
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2015 | 08:46 PM
  #6  
Ford SD's Avatar
Ford SD
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 144
Likes: 1
I tried the wood and hammer method as well as trying to break the metal "seal" with a chisel. I had very slim doubts that something as simple as a slide hammer would do the trick. AutoZone right up the street had the hammer and the spindle socket 27104 in their loaner tool. I had to pay $85 but will get it back when I return. I brought it home, set it up and started hammering. About 10 minutes of slide hammering and it broke loose. I'm amazed that actually worked. I spent a good two hours doing it the other way and didn't get a crack in that seal. Oh and BTW, my passenger side axle u-joint was completely froze. I could not move it at all. I think my ball joints are actually ok. I still need to do pads and rotors for sure. Anyone know of a good right up on that process? It looks like the rotor is attached to the hub!?!
 
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2015 | 09:51 PM
  #7  
Nothing Special's Avatar
Nothing Special
Lead Driver
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 5,006
Likes: 72
From: Roseville, MN
Originally Posted by andym
That's got to be the hardest possible way to remove the spindle. Here are two much easier ways:

Rent a slide hammer with a spindle puller attachment from the auto parts store. 4-5 good hits and it will come off.

Use a 3-jaw puller. Put the spindle nut back on and hook the jaws around the nut. Position the center of the puller against the end of the stub shaft. It will come off pretty easy.
To each their own. As I said, it wasn't the simplest to get the hole in the plate. But for me it was an easy, cheap tool and now I have it. As far as being hard to do, it's never taken me 10 minutes to hammer a spindle off like it took the OP with a slide hammer. Nice to know that's available and that it works almost as well as mine. And it's definitely easier if you don't have access to a mill.

As far as a 3-jaw puller, I can't imagine that would have worked on any of my trucks. Up here in the rust belt things get STUCK. I've used 3-jaws on a few things, and I've never had them work on anything close to a rusted spindle.

And to the OP, sand down the rust on the spindle and knuckle , then coat both with antiseize before reassembling it. It'll come apart a lot better the next time.
 
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2015 | 10:06 PM
  #8  
Bruners4's Avatar
Bruners4
Elder User
10 Year Member
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 501
Likes: 0
From: Lincoln, NE
I haven't worked on a Dana 50 but my rotors were held on with the wheel studs. Drove out all of the old studs and knocked off the rotors. Used new wheel studs to attach the new rotors.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-3

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-5

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-9

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Mar 31, 2015 | 09:19 AM
  #9  
GoinBoarding's Avatar
GoinBoarding
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 3,330
Likes: 292
From: Laramie, WY
The spindle socket costs like $20 and the slide hammer is a bit more (but also works for lots of other jobs). You can rent or buy. But its the bees knees for this job. I'd buy it twice for the time & spindles it saves.
 
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2015 | 11:41 AM
  #10  
Nothing Special's Avatar
Nothing Special
Lead Driver
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 5,006
Likes: 72
From: Roseville, MN
Originally Posted by Bruners4
I haven't worked on a Dana 50 but my rotors were held on with the wheel studs. Drove out all of the old studs and knocked off the rotors. Used new wheel studs to attach the new rotors.
My Dana 50 is the same.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
BLDTruth
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
7
Jul 16, 2017 03:50 PM
djmichael24951
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
6
Mar 6, 2014 08:55 PM
93tankus
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
5
May 25, 2008 06:52 AM
holland501
Brakes, Steering, Suspension, Tires, & Wheels
12
Oct 25, 2006 02:13 PM
GaryDee
Offroad & 4x4
2
Feb 18, 2000 02:03 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:16 PM.

story-0
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-2
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-4
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE