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Old Mar 18, 2015 | 12:22 PM
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Time for a long block

My truck has top end and bottom end noise now. Changing to thicker oil didn't help after all. In the end, I figure restoring this truck was a marathon, not a sprint.

Oh well. It looks sharp, and should receive the same attention to the engine. Long blocks from a reputable business here run about $1k with a 12 mo warranty. My truck has an Offy DP, Autolite 4100, EFI exhaust manifolds, Y-pipe and 2.5" exhaust, electronic ignition. Is it worth having a mild cam put in the long block? I have a budget that won't stretch much farther, unless I REALLY SHOULD upgrade the cam. I don't even know what that would run or what I'd ask for.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2015 | 03:45 PM
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Great looking truck.

If want a little better performance then your current engine and you can swing it, the cam upgrade is a good choice. It's the best time to do it. Rather then tear the engine back down later. If you like the way your engine currently performs ( besides the noises ) then just stick with the stock cam.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2015 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by fordman75
Great looking truck.

If want a little better performance then your current engine and you can swing it, the cam upgrade is a good choice. It's the best time to do it. Rather then tear the engine back down later. If you like the way your engine currently performs ( besides the noises ) then just stick with the stock cam.
After a quick scan in ebay, I see upgraded cams vary from $125-$300. I'll need to pass emissions. Should I stick with a stock cam?
 
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Old Mar 18, 2015 | 04:23 PM
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After a quick scan in ebay, I see upgraded cams vary from $125-$300. I'll need to pass emissions. Should I stick with a stock cam?

When you swap the cam you also want to swap, Lifters, valve springs and the timing set. The comp cams K-kits ( include everything needed for the swap ) go for right around $300.00.

You need to pass emissions with a 60's truck??? Where do you live? Let me know so I don't move there!

It's all up to you whether to stay with a stock cam or not.
 
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I talked to the engine builder today. It will be an extra $250 for the performance cam and related parts. If I just chose to use Chevy rockers, there is no cost. I'm leaning towards the performance cam. Thanks!
 
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Is this a supplier of rebuilt engines to auto parts stores? A lot of those outfits use the cheapest parts (esp. pistons) available. If you haven't done so, talk to a couple of long-established auto machine shop owners in your area, and see what they say about this rebuilder. Talking to the old machinists is always a good first move before making any decisions.

If the builder is doing this engine as a custom job for you, ask him about setting the squish-height (by milling the block deck after taking a measurement with the head temporarily installed). It's a chore, but it really helps the engine resist detonation if you start improving cylinder-filling with cams, manifolds, etc.. Setting the squish is something the engine designers would love to do if it weren't impossibly expensive in a production-line setting. The other thing to ask about is doing a "port and bowl" cleanup of the head, which gives small improvements in cylinder-filling "free," before you go to non-stock cams or high-ratio rockers.

Gorgeous truck!!
 
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Originally Posted by seattle smitty
Is this a supplier of rebuilt engines to auto parts stores? A lot of those outfits use the cheapest parts (esp. pistons) available. If you haven't done so, talk to a couple of long-established auto machine shop owners in your area, and see what they say about this rebuilder. Talking to the old machinists is always a good first move before making any decisions.

If the builder is doing this engine as a custom job for you, ask him about setting the squish-height (by milling the block deck after taking a measurement with the head temporarily installed). It's a chore, but it really helps the engine resist detonation if you start improving cylinder-filling with cams, manifolds, etc.. Setting the squish is something the engine designers would love to do if it weren't impossibly expensive in a production-line setting. The other thing to ask about is doing a "port and bowl" cleanup of the head, which gives small improvements in cylinder-filling "free," before you go to non-stock cams or high-ratio rockers.

Gorgeous truck!!
The engine builder has a pretty extensive shop. The owner took me through the shop, explained what they do and showed me the various stations. Thanks for the advice!
 
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