Upgraded ignition?
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Upgraded ignition?
I've been reading about upgrading my ignition system, but I can't make heads or tails of it 
What I have so far is that I'm gonna want bigger better plug wires, maybe a new "high-power" coil and do some kind of wizardry to the distributor to make it work better. Can anyone explain the last bit to me like I'm five years old?
What I have so far is that I'm gonna want bigger better plug wires, maybe a new "high-power" coil and do some kind of wizardry to the distributor to make it work better. Can anyone explain the last bit to me like I'm five years old?
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From: Rimrock, AZ
Look into Pertronix Electronic Ignition and there Flamethrower coil. They recommend you run 8mm wires, but I don't. Super easy / basic to install and it works like a charm. So many factors go into making your points not perform as well as they should and this eliminates all of that. No more wet points, no dirty points, don't have to adjust points, etc.
I would say it is one of the most worth it investments.
I would say it is one of the most worth it investments.
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From: Laramie, WY
I like the GM HEI style distributers so I installed one from Assault Racing, then installed a Davis Unified Ignition module and coil, along with an advance weight curve kit from Moroso.
The DUI module allows for higher rpm and increased dwell time, and the coil has a higher voltage output available. Increasing the dwell time allows for more coil output. The longer the current flows through the primary side of the coil the bigger the spark can be on the secondary side. This allows you to increase the gap on the spark plug electrode to have a bigger spark.
8mm wires have more insulation to help keep the higher voltage inside of them. Less chance of shorting to the block before reaching the spark plug.
The DUI module allows for higher rpm and increased dwell time, and the coil has a higher voltage output available. Increasing the dwell time allows for more coil output. The longer the current flows through the primary side of the coil the bigger the spark can be on the secondary side. This allows you to increase the gap on the spark plug electrode to have a bigger spark.
8mm wires have more insulation to help keep the higher voltage inside of them. Less chance of shorting to the block before reaching the spark plug.
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I just recently purchased a 72 F100 and this weekend I installed an electronic ignition conversion kit from hot-spark.com and a Pertronix flamethrower coil. It took about 1/2 hour to install both and the truck fired right up. I can't really compare the difference between the points set-up and the electronic ignition one because I haven't driven my truck much since I'm in the process of correcting other deferred maintenance issues but from everything I've ready you can't go wrong with the swap.
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From: Waterloo, Iowa
Definitely look into a new distributor itself too. They wear out, get gummed up, wallered out, rusty, etc. the distributor is the "brains" of the ignition and wear out (at least the bushings) or get a little sloppy fairly quickly. You want to buy a "curved" distributor suitable for your application, or curve it yourself. Trust Me.
The mechanical wear that buggers up dizzys is partly why Pertronix is so popular - the electronic pickup compensates for a lot of that wear, points will just not set up right with excessive end play wobble or runout in the distributor itself. Pertronix is a good system and allows for use of the OEM equipment without modification, but it can't compensate for the idle miss or erratic mechanical advance, failed vacuum diaphragm, etc.
I would suggest spend money on a replacement distributor and Pertronix Ignitor before boutique wires or bajillion kilovolt coils. An ignition system only draws what is needed. If the fuel mixture/plug needs 12k to fire, that's what it gets no matter what coil is used.
Don't use the cheapest wires either, use good quality resistance wires, plugs cap and rotor though replace them every couple years, they are a wear item.
The mechanical wear that buggers up dizzys is partly why Pertronix is so popular - the electronic pickup compensates for a lot of that wear, points will just not set up right with excessive end play wobble or runout in the distributor itself. Pertronix is a good system and allows for use of the OEM equipment without modification, but it can't compensate for the idle miss or erratic mechanical advance, failed vacuum diaphragm, etc.
I would suggest spend money on a replacement distributor and Pertronix Ignitor before boutique wires or bajillion kilovolt coils. An ignition system only draws what is needed. If the fuel mixture/plug needs 12k to fire, that's what it gets no matter what coil is used.
Don't use the cheapest wires either, use good quality resistance wires, plugs cap and rotor though replace them every couple years, they are a wear item.
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The Petronix is an excellent inexpensive upgrade. I have used them for years. I don't think you can do better for the money.
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Awesome, thanks for the help guys. I'm in the middle of tuning the truck up, so when I'm ordering cap, rotor, wires, bla bla bla, I'll have to get a Pertronix unit too. See if it can't help liven her up a bit hahaha
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