Cold, No Start, My Turn
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Cold, No Start, My Turn
I've had this truck for about a year and all has been well engine wise. Starts at 20 degrees with a little cranking but not what I would consider too bad. 5 degrees and no start, no smoke, batteries peter out fairly quickly. New batteries a year ago. For right now I'm wanting to know about the block heater. There is no cord around that I can see and I don't know where to look to see if there is or was one on this unit.
I will check on the glow plugs and injectors as per the posts I was able to find.
I have seen the cords hanging out of the bumper driver's side so I'm guessing it's on the driver's side somewhere?
Thanks,
Mark
I will check on the glow plugs and injectors as per the posts I was able to find.
I have seen the cords hanging out of the bumper driver's side so I'm guessing it's on the driver's side somewhere?
Thanks,
Mark
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Start at the Oil filter. The block heater is in the fitting right above the oil filter. If there is no cord there then you will need to get a new one. If it's there you can follow it out.
Edit.......While your under there looking check the condition of the cord. There have been several threads in the recent past that talked about heater cords that were found damaged and IIRC the flat cords are more susceptible to damage. Don't need another my truck caught fire thread!!!!
Edit.......While your under there looking check the condition of the cord. There have been several threads in the recent past that talked about heater cords that were found damaged and IIRC the flat cords are more susceptible to damage. Don't need another my truck caught fire thread!!!!
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I encourage you to find the block heater cord, but the truck really should start when it is 5 degrees outside without the block heater. It won't be pretty, but you should get fire. How many miles are on your oil?
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Does the Tachometer begin to raise and then drop to 0 when it doesn't start?
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OK, truck sits most of the time, put charger on and batteries were weak. Charged one at a time but not to full charge. Warmed to 20 today. Hooked batteries back up, turned switch on, charger gauge showed draw from glow plugs for like three minutes. Tried but no start (almost did). Second round two minutes for glow plugs to shut off and it started, runs not too bad. Oil is a year old but maybe 2000 miles 15-40 Mobil 1. I did run the tank down a few weeks ago to get seasonal blend in and filled at Sunoco. Still cold for my blood but will look for block heater and see what I find. Does it take a removable cord?
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15w-40 is harder to start in the winter than 5w-40. Try that next time you do a change. Did you find your block heater cord? Find it above the oil filter if it exists and follow it to the front. Mine rests right on top of the tranny cooler in the middle of bumper opening...between the fog lights.
Yes it is a removable cord...basically an extension cord from the connector above the filter, up to the bumper.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-7-3-6-0-6-4-6-7-L-Powerstroke-Diesel-Block-Heater-Cord-/251422030102?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a89ebb916&vxp=mtr
The trick I did in my '94.5 if I couldn't plug in the heater (don't have to in my 2002) was to cycle the glow plugs 4-5 times before ever trying to crank it. You sit there and look goofy for ~5 minutes and the neighbors wonder why you are sitting in your truck, waiting and freezing your a$$ off ;-)
Yes it is a removable cord...basically an extension cord from the connector above the filter, up to the bumper.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-7-3-6-0-6-4-6-7-L-Powerstroke-Diesel-Block-Heater-Cord-/251422030102?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a89ebb916&vxp=mtr
The trick I did in my '94.5 if I couldn't plug in the heater (don't have to in my 2002) was to cycle the glow plugs 4-5 times before ever trying to crank it. You sit there and look goofy for ~5 minutes and the neighbors wonder why you are sitting in your truck, waiting and freezing your a$$ off ;-)
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Like Tom said - batteries. No smoke out the tail pipe means your injectors aren't pumping fuel, and that's from your batteries dropping below 10 volts. If it was solely a glow plug issue, you'd get a bunch of white smoke out the exhaust while cranking. It most likely fires at 20F, but not 5F, due to the oil being just thin enough to not suck the batteries down below the threshold voltage.
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IIRC the max the glow plugs stay on is 120 sec (2 min). Check to make sure the GP relay is clicking on and off when it should.
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OK, cleaned all four battery connections and fully charged the batteries. None were 100% clean but cleaning them didn't seem to make a difference. W/ key on charger indicated that GP's worked for about 3 mins first round and 2 mins for the next two. Still no start, small amount of smoke, I'm guessing 5/40 oil is in order to fix that part. Found power cord for block heater intact and tucked in the grill on top of that rubber mat that sits down there. From the looks of the corrosion on it the PO didn't even know it existed. All good, no dog bites, no chafes, looks like original cord. Man that's a big connection there at the block, it didn't look that big in the picture posted above. Emeried it up a bit, plugged it in for three hours, electric meter turned faster after plugging it in so I knew it worked. 3 hours later start up like summer time.
Thanks to all for the input,
Mark
Thanks to all for the input,
Mark
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