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Old May 27, 2025 | 09:28 PM
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Having a ball hitch in will absolutely benefit you if rear-ended. It will take so much of the impact that damage to your car will be minimal. I got rear ended in my Excursion by a sedan doing about 50mph while I was at a stop in bumper to bumper traffic. The sedan was totaled and all i had was a single dent on my bumper, my hitch was nearly inside the sedans engine block after slamming through its radiator. It will not hurt you in anyone other than smacking your shin into it, have no idea how you came up with the increased whiplash idea
 
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Old May 27, 2025 | 09:51 PM
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There are zero crumple zones in a hitch = increased whiplash.
The front of the frame, pretty obvious where the crumple zone is. The rear, not so much. Put a hitch on, and there is none.

Check your local laws. It is illegal to keep the receiver ball/hitch in place without a trailer on.
Ever here about anyone getting a ticket? No.

Yes, I realize this is over 10 years old, just adding to it.
 
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Old May 27, 2025 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by northwindone
I can understand flipping it upside down in the receiver for clearance as you said. I always just take mine out if I'm not going to use it for a while. I do this for several reasons:
1 - Save my shins, I have only done this once, but that is enough.
2 - I install a 3rd brake light in the receiver.
3 - Less damage to a car that may rear end me, not that I care about their car, but folks have been sued over damage caused by a ball when not towing. I've even heard of some people getting tickets.
4 - During a rear end collision the ball will cause more of an impulse on my truck doubling the likelihood of whiplash, which insurance companies will deny paying as their would be little damage to the rear of my truck making the argument that you can't have whiplash based on the minimal damage to the truck. Win/win for the insurance company, but huge loss for me paying medical bills that they refuse to pay.

I kind of make a habit out of removing them as soon as I drop my trailer though as I have two different trailers that take completely different drops and ball sizes so I usually just pull it out right away and hitch it back to the trailer leaving it hanging on the tongue. No one can steal the trailer as it's locked to the ball and it has a receiver pin locked to it as well. I always know where they are and they aren't floating around behind the seats in my truck.

Now flipping it in the bumper makes absolutely no sense to me....anyone else have any idea?


#3 is the reason I keep my hitch in... twice I've been rear ended buy small cars and drove away with no damage while they wait for a tow.
 
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Old May 28, 2025 | 11:15 AM
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People leave hitch adapters in because they are too lazy to take them out and then make excuses for why they leave them in.
 
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Old May 29, 2025 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by wwhite
There are zero crumple zones in a hitch = increased whiplash.
The front of the frame, pretty obvious where the crumple zone is. The rear, not so much. Put a hitch on, and there is none.

Check your local laws. It is illegal to keep the receiver ball/hitch in place without a trailer on.
Ever here about anyone getting a ticket? No.

Yes, I realize this is over 10 years old, just adding to it.
You're right the hitch doesn't have a crumble zone but you are being rear ended and the front of the car hitting you will crumble. I didn't have a lick of whiplash from getting hit. Also, South Florida has no laws about leaving hitches in, it is standard practice on trucks here
 
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Old May 30, 2025 | 07:46 AM
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South Carolina has no law on the books that makes it illegal to leave your trailer ball / trailer hitch in the receiver.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2025 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Krystal Kid
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The Tacoma forum is giant bag of idiots. Save perhaps the mid 10s Nissan Altima there are fewer if any vehicles that have less intelligent owners. You should feel bad for copy pasting anything from that dump let alone a bunch of marketing ****.

You cannot apply statistical averages to individual situations. Some 20% risk of injury state taken from the general population isn't going to apply to a forum where everyone drives an F-series that already has basically no shock absorption in the bumper to begin with. Nobody here is losing much by making the other vehicle crumple more. Yes, having a bumper that can move and absorb energy is a good thing. Yes letting the other vehicle go under is a good thing.

Realistically there's nothing in the front of a passenger car for a hitch to grab onto that's really capable of bending a truck frame unless it gets so deep in it gets into the engine and stuff. You're talking 20+mph impact at that point.

Chrysler put hitches on a ton of Grand Cherokees for free as part of a "fuel tank could get punctured" recall. If they thought whiplash injuries would increase enough to matter they wouldn't have done it. The pictured vehicle was either not in the collision that is being portrayed or is not representative of typical results. The next most realistic consideration after straight lying for marketing reasons would be rust.


Originally Posted by Tedster9
People sue for all kinds of stuff. Don't see how a trailer hitch is gonna fly. Stop following so close, won't be a problem.
I've long maintained that we could improve society more by lining up and shooting people to tell cautionary tales of speculative lawsuits that never actually resulted in anything more than we could by lining up and shooting people who bring BS lawsuits.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2025 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Krystal Kid
Well the entire state of New York didn't seem to think so...

Press Release – Rear End Collision Crash Mitigation - Lightweight Vehicle Attenuators 2.1.15

The New York State BID 27734, Group 38650, Safety Equipment for Transportation & Public Works, Lot 16 - SUV and Lightweight Vehicle Attenuators - has been awarded to Mohr Manufacturing of Burnsville, Minnesota.

This four year Comprehensive Crash Mitigation initiative includes lightweight attenuators to reduce workman’s comp claims, vehicle damage and the risk of whiplash in pickup trucks and SUVs equipped with receiver hitches in the State of New York.

Statewide contracts are by the NYS Law only issued through the NY State Procurement (NYSPro) office. A statewide contract becomes the contract source to be used by all New York State Executive Agencies including the: Dept of Transportation, Parks, Environmental Conservation, Police, Fire, NY Thruway, NY City’s Metropolitan Transportation Authority, the Port Authority of NY& NJ, as well as by all 63 County Governments, any Municipality within the State and finally by the educational community in any school system or district & any college or university (public or private).
There's a difference between "product actually does something" and "product enables one lying POS new yorker to deny a completely baseless injury claim made by another POS new yorker". The products probably work, somewhat, but you gotta remember these are government employees and employers we're talking about here. Gotta take it with a grain of salt.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2025 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 351Cleveland C4
I'm still wondering why somebody would bolt the ball on upside down.

It makes a decent step.
 
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Originally Posted by arse_sidewards
It makes a decent step.
thats why I leave mine in. The floor of my expedition is about 40” off the ground and the top of the rear bumper isn’t a ton lower. Even for my 36” inseam, at 47 years old, I kind of need a step to get back out even if I managed to get in without it.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2025 | 04:18 AM
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Wow a 10 year old thread dug up from the grave!

Wonder how many of these things were sold and what are the statistics of them actually helping?
 
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Originally Posted by spdv5296
Having a ball hitch in will absolutely benefit you if rear-ended. It will take so much of the impact that damage to your car will be minimal. I got rear ended in my Excursion by a sedan doing about 50mph while I was at a stop in bumper to bumper traffic. The sedan was totaled and all i had was a single dent on my bumper, my hitch was nearly inside the sedans engine block after slamming through its radiator. It will not hurt you in anyone other than smacking your shin into it, have no idea how you came up with the increased whiplash idea
Damn.... Mine barely sticks out far enough to penetrate the plastic bumper on most cars these days (been rear ended twice with it in). Yours must stick out about 3-4' to penetrate an engine block.
 
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