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Old Jan 3, 2015 | 03:07 PM
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Would you patch or replace bed sides?




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Around the tail light is all dented up.

Like I stated in my build thread. My wife's family owns a body shop and it has been offered that they will put the bedsides on for whatever the bed sides cost. They are $249 on LMC and I can get them cheaper through the body shop. So I am basically looking at about $450 for new bed sides. Would you guys spend the $$ or use patch panels? I am going for a full restoration. Doesn't have to be show quality but just a really nice daily driver.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2015 | 03:28 PM
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I'd ask the body shop that is going to do the work. They will have the best answer.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2015 | 03:41 PM
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It all depends on the quality of the complete sides, some are pretty thin and don't fit very well. Patches can be hard to get behind and seal the joints so you don't have rust problems in the future
 
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Old Jan 3, 2015 | 03:46 PM
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Well, as I said, the body shop is my father in law and his brother. I was just wanting to know what you all would do. Would you spend the $$$ and do bedsides or would you save $$$ and just do patches. I did patch panels on my other 79 I had 15 years ago. It came out ok and lasted for a long time.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2015 | 03:57 PM
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At least yours isn't as rusty as mine. On mine I'm going to replace the box sides when I can afford it, sometimes it's cheaper in the long run. I checked with LMC on bed sides a while ago and the shipping was kind of high though.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2015 | 04:01 PM
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Its hard to say without seeing the truck in person.

I'd probably buy a complete side, but just use what was needed to repair the rust. With smaller patch panels you may have to weld 2 or more separate pieces together to make the repair. Using a whole side cut to size to do the same thing equals less seams to worry about.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2015 | 04:03 PM
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Oh yeah, it's nice having the in-laws in the business too! The patches should cost less than $100
 
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Old Jan 3, 2015 | 04:34 PM
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The wheel arch patches work well for the top. With the rust bug growing at the bottom of the well plus rust elsewhere, I think the full sides would work best. Plus with the sides off, its easy to clean and paint the hidden parts.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2015 | 10:12 PM
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I would say you better locate some complete replacement bed sides and price ck them first, I bet patch panel will look better after that.

You do know that the edge lip curve on a front fender is the same as the bed, hit the Jy for a set of spare front fenders to get the panels.

No matter what, cut the rust out and replace with new metal. The biggest issue on the bed is where the inner fenderwell is tack welded to the bed side, it has a bad drain design.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2015 | 10:55 PM
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I'd patch or pull all that... relatively easy IMO.... been there, done it already . I'd add a stud gun/puller to the tool arsenal.

Below is the culprit of wheel arch rust. A crappily designed wheel well liner. See the dark area? That's where mud, pebbles, and dirt gets trapped because the fricken drain holes are too few and too small. It never dries out. The solution is to section out large areas so it drains better and weld it back in because it braces the bed side.



 
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Thanks HIO for the better'proper description and pics of the bad area.
 
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Make sure the person who did the previous body work on your truck doesn't touch it. In fact chop off that persons hands if you can. Use patch panels and yes front fenders work real good for wheel arches, if you see a set of mint condition fenders buy them and resale them and use the money to buy a crappy set that has the metal you need for the repair.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by HIO Silver
I'd patch or pull all that... relatively easy IMO.... been there, done it already . I'd add a stud gun/puller to the tool arsenal.

Below is the culprit of wheel arch rust. A crappily designed wheel well liner. See the dark area? That's where mud, pebbles, and dirt gets trapped because the fricken drain holes are too few and too small. It never dries out. The solution is to section out large areas so it drains better and weld it back in because it braces the bed side.



if this doesnt get get welded solid it will show threw the body filler in a short time,ALL seems to be welded 100%.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 04:59 AM
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Ive been into auto collision,Restoration for over 30yrs. I would charge more to repair the OP box sides than i would to R&R an outer complete skin, patching is much more labor intense than an outer skin. While the complete skin is off you can easily repair and correct any issue there is behind the skin. I will be replacing my skin's this spring and if any one would like i can do a step by step to show how easy this is and what tools you need, i have both complete box side outer skins sitting here waiting.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 05:21 AM
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I will be replacing my skin's this spring and if any one would like i can do a step by step to show how easy this is and what tools you need, i have both complete box side outer skins sitting here waiting.
I would definitely like to see that.
 
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