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An electric car reminds me of vegetarians. If bean sprouts are so good why are they making veggie bacon, burgers and other meat flavors? If it's so great ..... why pretend it's meat, eat your sprouts and be happy! I like my food, I have no need to pretend bacon is lettuce. Can you imagine green bean flavored rib eye steak, broccoli flavored brats, or squash flavored beef roast? Electric cars are kinda the same thing. The electric motor is what starts the real engine. I like the sound and feel of an engine. Like riding a Harley or a moped.
An electric car reminds me of vegetarians. If bean sprouts are so good why are they making veggie bacon, burgers and other meat flavors? If it's so great ..... why pretend it's meat, eat your sprouts and be happy! I like my food, I have no need to pretend bacon is lettuce. Can you imagine green bean flavored rib eye steak, broccoli flavored brats, or squash flavored beef roast? Electric cars are kinda the same thing. The electric motor is what starts the real engine. I like the sound and feel of an engine. Like riding a Harley or a moped.
I like the sound of extra change jingling in my pocket.
An electric car reminds me of vegetarians. If bean sprouts are so good why are they making veggie bacon, burgers and other meat flavors? If it's so great ..... why pretend it's meat, eat your sprouts and be happy! I like my food, I have no need to pretend bacon is lettuce. Can you imagine green bean flavored rib eye steak, broccoli flavored brats, or squash flavored beef roast? Electric cars are kinda the same thing. The electric motor is what starts the real engine. I like the sound and feel of an engine. Like riding a Harley or a moped.
Hahaha. I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess you've never driven a sporty electric vehicle?
Some "real engines" also use other internal combustion engines (a "real engine") to start themselves with. So does that then make them not a "real engine"? I really fail to see how an electric motor being used to start an ICE has any relevance on it's acceptability as a prime mover.
In school, I was part of a university club that built and raced electric cars. This is a picture of our car:
It had a 3 phase 120 HP motor, and it was the size of a 5 gallon bucket. As soon as you hit the accelerator, you had full torque. From there, it just revs and revs and revs. The sound of that thing spinning up would make my day. It had a 4 speed gearbox, but I'd just leave it in 2nd and spin it up.
There's really nothing to argue. They're far smaller for the same power, far simpler and more reliable, have far superior power output characteristics, and convert energy at a level an ICE couldn't hope for. They also have waay better NVH characteristics, and the list goes on. The ONLY thing holding them back is power storage. On that car we had over a ton of batteries.
I also love the sound of a V8, but I'd settle for the sound of an electric motor turning 10,000 RPM's.
Hahaha. I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess you've never driven a sporty electric vehicle?
Some "real engines" also use other internal combustion engines (a "real engine") to start themselves with. So does that then make them not a "real engine"? I really fail to see how an electric motor being used to start an ICE has any relevance on it's acceptability as a prime mover.
In school, I was part of a university club that built and raced electric cars. This is a picture of our car:
It had a 3 phase 120 HP motor, and it was the size of a 5 gallon bucket. As soon as you hit the accelerator, you had full torque. From there, it just revs and revs and revs. The sound of that thing spinning up would make my day. It had a 4 speed gearbox, but I'd just leave it in 2nd and spin it up.
There's really nothing to argue. They're far smaller for the same power, far simpler and more reliable, have far superior power output characteristics, and convert energy at a level an ICE couldn't hope for. They also have waay better NVH characteristics, and the list goes on. The ONLY thing holding them back is power storage. On that car we had over a ton of batteries.
I also love the sound of a V8, but I'd settle for the sound of an electric motor turning 10,000 RPM's.
That is a great looking project! I honestly have no problem with electric motors, they make insane power. What I have an issue with is the amount of hypocrisy that people have about "green" cars/energy. Honestly, I think that the train industry has a good pulse about using electric cupeled with combustion. We also often see this style of operation on large vessels. That is using a generator to provide power to a high output electric motor.
As the electric motor tech becomes smaller and more powerful, I would love to see this style of use put into vehicles like our Ex's. Forget the batteries, just a gas, natural gas or even hydrogen powered generator which provides the power for the electric propulsion motor.
The towing, torque and efficiency potential are tremendous! I just wish that one side of the coin would talk and work with the other side, and that the petrol heads would see the possibilities of electricity, and that the eco nuts would see that being green does not mean having to sacrifice usability.
isnt a good thing about electric motors is their strong ability to slow a vehicle down like brakes? i remembre in the 70s the slow cars we had, when we let of that pistol grip the instantly stop the wheel motion pretty much. they were a blast. i always wanted to know what one would feel like if it was scaled up to full size, as they accelerated instantly!
The ONLY thing holding them back is power storage.
And the fact that they are not environmental, the tailpipe emissions are at the power plant and they emit much more carbon than my tailpipe attached to my vehicle.
Lol, yeah this thread got really derailed. I agree, a good balance of the two would be great. If batteries got where we need them, fossil fuel powered engines would be great as stationary generating stations. You'd have the space to use them in a combined cycle system, which would let them produce nearly twice the usable energy given the same amount of fuel. That, and all the emissions crap can be there, not on our cars and trucks.
I agree. The braking ability of an electric would be great. The motor could handle all your load braking on the way down a hill, then use all that energy you recouped to help pull you up the next. That way, you aren't giving off all that energy as heat (via your brakes), and your brakes last far longer. Trains brake via their electric motors, but since they have no large batteries to charge and store the energy, the electric power the motors generate is given off as heat via large resistive electric heaters mounted on the roof.
And the fact that they are not environmental, the tailpipe emissions are at the power plant and they emit much more carbon than my tailpipe attached to my vehicle.
Actually, a fossil fuel generating station is far more efficient at converting chemical energy to usable work than the engine used in a car. So, given the same energy output, less fuel is burned to produce it via the power plant. As such, less CO2/KW power is produced.
isnt a good thing about electric motors is their strong ability to slow a vehicle down like brakes? i remembre in the 70s the slow cars we had, when we let of that pistol grip the instantly stop the wheel motion pretty much. they were a blast. i always wanted to know what one would feel like if it was scaled up to full size, as they accelerated instantly!
I was trying to be funny......I know......back to my real job. I realize there there is cool electric technology, but the sound of healthy engine and the smell of racing gas are part of the experience for me. That is a cool race car. Maybe build a dirt latemodel next?
Thought I would revive this hijacked thread with an update for you all. After committing a mortal sin and buying a suburban right after the wreck, I have gotten sick and tired of cramping the family in a sorry excuse of a "family sized" SUV. So am proud to report to you all that we are back in the saddle! 2000 Limited V10, she got 140,000 miles but she is pretty cherry! Running gear is tight, COP's are new, cat back exhaust, and doesn't appear to have seen gravel road in its life.
Thought I would revive this hijacked thread with an update for you all. After committing a mortal sin and buying a suburban right after the wreck, I have gotten sick and tired of cramping the family in a sorry excuse of a "family sized" SUV. So am proud to report to you all that we are back in the saddle! 2000 Limited V10, she got 140,000 miles but she is pretty cherry! Running gear is tight, COP's are new, cat back exhaust, and doesn't appear to have seen gravel road in its life.
Good for you glad you came in from the "dark side".
I just read the whole thread, glad you guys came out okay.
I feel the same way about these. They may not be the best, but having a family of 8, I feel they give me the best chance. So much that after totalling my last EX exactly two weeks after buying it and only putting 100 miles on it up until the day I wrecked it....I bought another.
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If bean sprouts are so good why are they making veggie bacon, burgers and other meat flavors?
If it's so great ..... why pretend it's meat, eat your sprouts and be happy! I like my food, I have no need to pretend bacon is lettuce.
Can you imagine green bean flavored rib eye steak, broccoli flavored brats, or squash flavored beef roast?
Electric cars are kinda the same thing. The electric motor is what starts the real engine. I like the sound and feel of an engine. Like riding a Harley
or a moped
.
