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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 02:59 PM
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long crank when cold

I replaced my FICM about two months ago from FICMrepair.com with an Atlas 40 tune. I had a toasted ficm before but the truck would try to fire almost immediately. Now, it cranks for 30 seconds plus when trying to start. It has done this since the day i installed it. It starts fine in the cold...other than the long crank , my voltages are 48-49. Batteries are new.
Truck info...06 F350
5" mbrp
Afe intake
Egr delete
Sct tuner running a canned tow tune
Hpop readings are 1040psi cold 590 warmed up at idle
Could this be a ficm programming issue?
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 03:00 PM
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Looks like i need to update all my pictures and profile as well....havent been on here in a few years!
 
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by the4by4freek
I replaced my FICM about two months ago from FICMrepair.com with an Atlas 40 tune. I had a toasted ficm before but the truck would try to fire almost immediately. Now, it cranks for 30 seconds plus when trying to start. It has done this since the day i installed it. It starts fine in the cold...other than the long crank , my voltages are 48-49. Batteries are new. <br /><br />
Truck info...06 F350 <br /><br />
5" mbrp<br /><br />
Afe intake<br /><br />
Egr delete<br /><br />
Sct tuner running a canned tow tune<br /><br />
Hpop readings are 1040psi cold 590 warmed up at idle <br /><br />
Could this be a ficm programming issue?<br /><br />
Thanks in advance
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What are your ICPV's and FICM volts at KOEO and your IPR% and FICM volts while cranking and at hot idle ( EOT of 185* ) ?
 
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 07:36 PM
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Are you using a OEM oil filter? Possibly a too short fliter is allowing all the oil to drain out of the filter housing, thus the LPOP has to fill it before supplying oil to the HPOP. Just a thought.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 08:39 PM
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Koeo FICM voltage is 47.5
Engine warm Ficm voltage is 49
Motorcraft filters always
Like i said...started rough cold with old ficm...several tries needed to stay running. Would fire almost immediately....now, since new FICM, it takes forever to crank. Black fuel smoke at startup for just a second....one big puff...then clear
 
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 08:46 PM
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What rpms are you seeing on cranking? If they are marginal, you might try to see if the long cranks are still there with the belt removed.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 08:55 PM
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Its turning over perfectly...just not firing
 
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 08:57 PM
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The only thing that changed when this started happening was the FICM
 
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 09:03 PM
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Like i also stated...new NAPA ledgend batteries...1030 cca each
 
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 09:22 PM
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Issues w/ injectors usually show some whitish smoke at startup. Could be wrong, but it sounds more like it isn't getting enough air to me (black smoke). This could be coincidental w/ the FICM install.

The reason I asked about rpms is that you can have great batteries and still drag a little - things like pulley or tensioner bearings can drag. You need at least 150-200 rpms for a decent startup. Just throwing it out there - hard to know how strong the cranking is across the internet.

Have you used a code reader on it?

Also - contact Ed (FICMrepair.com) and see what he has to say. he is always willing to help folks/customers troubleshoot.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by the4by4freek
Koeo FICM voltage is 47.5
Engine warm Ficm voltage is 49
Motorcraft filters always
Like i said...started rough cold with old ficm...several tries needed to stay running. Would fire almost immediately....now, since new FICM, it takes forever to crank. Black fuel smoke at startup for just a second....one big puff...then clear
Have you scanned it for codes? You can have DTC's without a check engine light. Also when you installed the FICM did you get audible clicks when you plugged the electrical connectors in to the FICM?
 
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 06:07 AM
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I run torque pro on this truck. I have no lights, no codes, and when it starts, it runs perfectly. All temps and pressures are spot on. Deltas are good. I guess its time to give ed a call
 
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This was cold immediately after startup
 
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which program are you using to get you spec screen
 
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