I see E-code mentioned quite a bit when it comes to Hella lenses and others. Is that short hand for the ECE approval? If it does I saw the ECE but it says they are not street legal in the US. I also was reading on the Daniel site that was posted that the arrow indicates what side of the road the car is ment to be on with the headlight. For the ECE the photo they show indicates the arrow to the right which from the site says they are intended for vehicles drove on the left side of the road.

I can get them though if they are better as they are the same cost reguardless if I go with the ECE or the SAE/DOT ones. I just dont want to get ones that will blind on coming traffic or turn their windshield white with glare as that is one thing that really pisses me off.

I do want to get a push bar and mount round aux lights there as well, can always have those be just plain fog lights. Can find the dash bezel that has the fog light option to make it a nicer setup. Thing is though I need to do research to see if there is such a thing as LED fog lights or if that is just people being stupid on ebay listing it as spot, flood, fog to get more hits.

That was a interesting read. I have to be honest, that site is a little hard to navigate and I still havent found what was talked about the site having light patterns for different styles of lights.

 

"Left" lamps are really only going to be found in Britain, Australia, Japan, India, south east Africa and some other former British colonies like Hong Kong, Bermuda and the BVI.

If the headlamps have an arrow pointing to the right, this means "RIGHT HAND DRIVE" ie the steering wheel in on the right, and the vehicle is operated on the LEFT hand side of the road.

No markings other than the [ E ] code is meant for 90% of the world (except stupid U.S. laws)
These are what you want for driving on the right hand side of the road.

 

This is the one I found that summit sells they have a better photo on their ebay listing.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hella-Vision-Plus-Headlamp-003427861-/390946974556?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5b06416b5c&vxp=mtr
Below the E1 on the right side of the headlight you see an arrow pointing to the right which based off Daniels website says this ECE headlight is suitable for left hand traffic. This is what I am talking about cause I find some listings that show the ECE with and without the arrow but the photos I dont think are showing the actual item you are purchasing for every listing. Thats why I want to be sure as if I make a purchase with a generic photo and it ends up having an arrow to the left well then I am not screwed.

If I look up the SAE/DOT version it shows the same photos which has me wary of which one I will actually receive.

 

Yeah, SO many of these "illustrations" on Ebay and the catalog websites are just some stock photo, that may not even be the actual item...

Contact Summit through Ebay's messaging center and ask directly.
If they are incorrect, and send you British headlamps, PayPal will refund your money and Ebay will pull their listing.

Like I said, some not so nice things have been said about those Chinese made 'Vision Plus' housings.

 

Chinese made? These are made by Hella or are you saying Hella is outsourcing to china?

Coworker put some cheap ones he got off Ebay on his jeep and hes talking about upgrading to Hella as he wasnt happy with the ones he got off ebay.

If these are chinese made housings, which ones should I be looking at cause theres four of five different ones floating around on Ebay right now in the 7x6 size. I can get a pair of the Hella ECE ones from Jegs for $80 right now which is the cheapest Ie seen the Hella go for for a pair. But if they are getting a bad feed back then I want to save my money then.

 

Hella moved all manufacture to China some time ago.
They may have got their QC together now.
There was a lot of static at the time.

I think you need to know the actual numbers off the item to know where they are produced and what revision they are.

Back in my day people didn't like things produced in Japan, East Germany or Czechoslovakia...

 

The ones they have in the photo on summit and jegs ebay listing shows an E1 which comes back to Germany but that only applies to the country where the approval was granted. The photo also shows cast in the glass lens "Made in Germany" on it but it comes back to if that is a old stock photo or a photo of the actual product.

For me I dont mind buying German made or Czech made as Ive had good luck with their products. Its the Chinese that I havent had so much luck with. Best chinese made product I have is my Type 56 SKS but it was made in factory 26 in 1956 so it was produced in China but under Russian over view. Could be why the quality is there.

But I will do some research on that and I will email both jegs and summit asking them about their ebay listings. Then go on from there, I also know what ever brand I go with for the composite housings I will be using the 9003 Sylvania Silverstar 55/60w bulbs.

If I am not doing this wrong but if each bulb is rated at 910/1500 lumens for low/high, with two headlights that means I will have 1,820/3,000 lumens on a two headlight set up. That should be enough, hell the 1156 80w LED projector bulbs I used for my cornering lights on my mercury is rated at 1,200 lumens a piece, and they light up around the corners nicely.

 

So, the Vision Plus aren't the ones to get?

 

I'm not saying which ones to get, or not.
It has been a long time since I played with halogen conversion headlamps!

Back then it was Cibie and Marschal's that you used.

If you want to start a war, or just watch one play out, drop this question over on the Candlepower Forums!!!

I can get a little geeky when it comes to LED flashlights and stuff like that.

 

Didn't we go through all this last year???

 

I sent an email to Jegs asking them if the ones they are selling if they are made in Germany or made in China. I also asked them if the low beam was ment for left hand traffic or right hand traffic. Hope I get someone that is has knowledge on this to answer the question.

 

How much do they want for the pair at Jeg's?
Do they come bare, or with bulbs?

A headlamp relay is really going to make a difference in how bright your lights are.

 

They are $88.14 for a pair free shipping if I get them through the ebay listing which is the same price as from jegs themself. For that price it comes with two housings and two H4/9003 bulbs.

Yep. Tomorrow at lunch I will see if I can find where I put my harness and will take it to work after lunch and remove all the plastic conduit and start cutting the harness up and try to install it next weekend.

This weekend got shot as we had a family reunion but we ended up not going so I didnt have all the special tools I needed with me as they are at the shop still.

 

Last year? Did we have a last year? I don't 'member.

 

Here's some of Stern's photo galleries.

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