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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 11:24 AM
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VIN decoding for engine?

I looked up the typical codes on a truck that a friend has for sale, in the Fordification section and the codes aren't quite right. He has for sale a very nice body F100, 1973 2WD. No rust.

Code is: F0ZER00946

133 HO F101
F4 G17
0450

Since he's close to 70, I kinda thought he misread some numbers, so thinking the F0 should be F10?

On the engine code, I don't see a Z? But could this be the infamous 360 low compression made in Canada? Ugh. E would be the Manwah plant, I think.

133 is long wheelbase. I can't find an HO paint code. F101 is obvious.

G is auto transmission and 17 should be 3.25 ratio.

0450 is the weight
 
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by alchemist1
I looked up the typical codes on a truck that a friend has for sale, in the Fordification section and the codes aren't quite right. He has for sale a very nice body F100, 1973 2WD. No rust.

Code is: F10ER00946 / W.B. 133 / COLOR: HO / MODEL: F101 / BODY: F4 / TRANS: G / AXLE: 17 / MAX GVW LBS: 04550 / DSO: Omitted.
The VIN contains 11 digits, there's only 10. It appears that the engine code (4th digit) is missing, because there's no E, R or Z VIN engine codes listed for F100/350's.

F10 = F100 2WD Pickup.

Possible engine codes: A = 240 I-6 / B = 300 I-6 / G = 302 2V / H = 390 2V / Y = 360 2V

E = Mahwah NJ Assembly Plant.

R00946 = 1973.

133" Wheelbase.

F101 = F100 2WD Pickup, 4550 lbs. GVWR

HO: H = Medium Green Metallic / O is incorrect, it's probably Q = Light Yellow Green.

F4: F = Medium Green Vinyl & Medium Green Cloth / 4 = Ranger Cab with Styleside Pickup Box.

G = Automatic Transmission: 240/300/302 = C4; 360/390 = C6.

17 = Ford 9" Rear Axle / 3.25-1 / No Limited Slip / 3,300 lbs. Rear Axle Capacity.

4,550 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.

btw: Low Compression 360 2V was only available in 1974, its VIN engine code is 5.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
The VIN contains 11 digits, there's only 10. It appears that the engine code (4th digit) is missing, because there's no E, R or Z VIN engine codes listed for F100/350's.

F10 = F100 2WD Pickup.

Possible engine codes: A = 240 I-6 / B = 300 I-6 / G = 302 2V / H = 390 2V / Y = 360 2V

E = Mahwah NJ Assembly Plant.

R00946 = 1973.

133" Wheelbase.

F101 = F100 2WD Pickup, 4550 lbs. GVWR

HO: H = Medium Green Metallic / O is incorrect, it's probably Q = Light Yellow Green.

F4: F = Medium Green Vinyl & Medium Green Cloth / 4 = Ranger Cab with Styleside Pickup Box.

G = Automatic Transmission: 240/300/302 = C4; 360/390 = C6.

17 = Ford 9" Rear Axle / 3.25-1 / No Limited Slip / 3,300 lbs. Rear Axle Capacity.

4,550 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.
Yes, you're correct - I mentioned that above about a missing digit (thinking he meant 'F10' instead of 'F0'. So if that's the case, you have 'Z' as the engine code. I read a thread somewhere that Z was the designator in Canada for a 360 engine, low compression, D.S.O.???

In other words, pretend the VIN is F10ZER00946...
 
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by alchemist1
Yes, you're correct - I mentioned that above about a missing digit (thinking he meant 'F10' instead of 'F0'.

So if that's the case, you have 'Z' as the engine code.

I read a thread somewhere that Z was the designator in Canada for a 360 engine, low compression, D.S.O.???
Whoever typed that nonsense didn't know what they were talking about!
Z is not the code for the Low Compression 360 engine...which was only available in 1974. It's 5 and was a Domestic Special Order (parts catalog makes no mention of Canada).

When a vehicle is a Domestic Special Order, the DSO code stamped on the 3rd line...far right of the Warranty Plate...contains 6 numbers, instead of the usual 2.

Where is the Z VIN engine code? No see um.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 01:44 PM
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OK, so only available in 1974. that's good - he must have not had his thick reading glasses on when he copied down the VIN. If it's a 390, I might go for it. How would a 74 truck 390 compare to a non-HO 390 in an earlier model automobile (like a Galaxie, Fairlane, Mustang)?
 
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by alchemist1
OK, so only available in 1974. that's good - he must have not had his thick reading glasses on when he copied down the VIN.

If it's a 390, I might go for it. How would a 74 truck 390 compare to a non-HO 390 in an earlier model automobile (like a Galaxie, Fairlane, Mustang)?
First, you have to measure the stroke to verify it is a 390. Then you have to take into consideration if it has an EGR valve and/or smog pump.

IMO, the 390 used 1961/65 in cars is more powerful than the truck 390.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Z is not the code for the Low Compression 360 engine...which was only available in 1974. It's 5 and was a Domestic Special Order (parts catalog makes no mention of Canada).

When a vehicle is a Domestic Special Order, the DSO code stamped on the 3rd line...far right of the Warranty Plate...contains 6 numbers, instead of the usual 2.

Where is the Z VIN engine code? No see um.
Bill,
Actually I do see Z in the engine code column. It shows as D.S.O. (not low compression DSO). Here's the link where you posted that Z is referring to DSO:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/6...a-360-a-2.html
 
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Where is the Z VIN engine code? No see um.
I should have said, where is the Z engine code for the 360 Low Compression engine? No see um.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 03:06 PM
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I should have said, where is the Z engine code for the 360 Low Compression engine? No see um.
Do what does the Z engine code stand for? there's no definition in the Ford table.
 
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Do what does the Z engine code stand for? there's no definition in the Ford table.
Dunno, parts catalog doesn't say. All it says is D.S.O.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 03:54 PM
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sorry for the multiple posts Bill.

Here's what the VIN reads (corrected by the old man who just now called):

F10GER00946

So the engine is a 302, correct?
 
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 04:25 PM
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at least the truck with that VIN left the factory with a 302...the only way to say for sure is to see pics...
 
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Wouldn't it be a big deal to go to a big block from a 302?
 
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by alchemist1
Wouldn't it be a big deal to go to a big block from a 302?
I did it on a 79 F-100 i sold later, but i had all of the parts from another truck i pieced out . Big radiator that came with the 460 ,fan shroud correct factory 460 motor mounts, 79 engine , C/6 transmission . The drive shaft i can't remember if the F-100 one worked or if i just had one in my parts pile.That's the major parts , most of the time you have to reroute some wiring and a few other misl. things.

I did my 73 just the opposite , removed FE-360 , standard transmission and went with a 302 with AOD transmission . About the same amount of work, it's all about what you like and can live with.
 
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