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Old Sep 1, 2014 | 01:37 AM
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Differences in Fuel Filters

DieselTechRon is back with another tips n tricks video on 6.0 fuel filters:



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Old Sep 1, 2014 | 06:44 AM
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Shortly after getting my truck I learned to snap the lower filter into the cap and screw the whole thing in. Is it better to do it like Ron shows here?
 
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I snap my lower filter in also. It may not make much difference, but certainly nothing wrong w/ snapping it into the cap before tightening.

Also, I always remove (drain) the water plug. Upgrade the plug and it twists off easily (no allen wrench required). IMO you never know if you have any water in there and you can get algae growing in water - doesn't take much.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2014 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Rusty Axlerod
Shortly after getting my truck I learned to snap the lower filter into the cap and screw the whole thing in. Is it better to do it like Ron shows here?
Never mind--LOL.
 
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I snap mine into the cap as well.

I also use an oil filter wrench versus messing with sockets and extensions.

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Old Sep 1, 2014 | 08:04 AM
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For any other tool junkies, here is the snap-on socket. Socket, Filter Flip, 24 and 36mm, 3/8" square drive
 
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Originally Posted by bismic
Also, I always remove (drain) the water plug. Upgrade the plug and it twists off easily (no allen wrench required). IMO you never know if you have any water in there and you can get algae growing in water - doesn't take much.
How's your little venture coming along, regarding the creation of a Fumoto valve for us (similar to what a 6.4L uses)? The last I heard, you ran into some pitfalls.
 
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just out of curiousity, has anyone thought about changing the filter system over to a vertical filter system like used on big rigs? or would that not be a possibility because of the lower filter being in the fuel pump itself?
 
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Originally Posted by Redrkt
just out of curiousity, has anyone thought about changing the filter system over to a vertical filter system like used on big rigs? or would that not be a possibility because of the lower filter being in the fuel pump itself?
Not really a good option unless you go to an aftermarket fuel pump. The factory pump really works quite well if you use the correct filters and Dieseltech Ron showed exactly why.
 
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Originally Posted by m-chan68
How's your little venture coming along, regarding the creation of a Fumoto valve for us (similar to what a 6.4L uses)? The last I heard, you ran into some pitfalls.

Both valve companies (fumoto and oildrainvalve) don't think it is worth it. I am trying to drum up some interest in someone making a 90* elbow w/ the proper threads. No one is biting on it yet either. NOt going to give up yet!
 
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Originally Posted by bismic
Both valve companies (fumoto and oildrainvalve) don't think it is worth it. I am trying to drum up some interest in someone making a 90* elbow w/ the proper threads. No one is biting on it yet either. NOt going to give up yet!
What's the thread pitch?

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It is not just the thread pitch since the receiving thread (singular - one revolution) that is in the HFCM cover doesn't really seal at all. It is sealed with an o-ring. The plug itself fits into a shallow "well" that has a very slight shoulder at the bottom. The o-ring seals against the sides of the opening and it also serves to hold the plug in place.

FWIW the threads are M14 x 2

For 4WD trucks, the maximum length is about 1.5 inches.
 
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Originally Posted by bismic
It is not just the thread pitch since the receiving thread (singular - one revolution) that is in the HFCM cover doesn't really seal at all. It is sealed with an o-ring. The plug itself fits into a shallow "well" that has a very slight shoulder at the bottom. The o-ring seals against the sides of the opening and it also serves to hold the plug in place.

FWIW the threads are M14 x 2

For 4WD trucks, the maximum length is about 1.5 inches.
Just thinking out loud;

Would it be possible to take the original hex key plug and drill and tap that for a 90 degree elbow and run a small ball valve off of that?

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Originally Posted by Bullitt390
Just thinking out loud;

Would it be possible to take the original hex key plug and drill and tap that for a 90 degree elbow and run a small ball valve off of that?

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Certainly that's possible but the drawback is that you get the "shoulder affect" that won't allow for full drainage of the water cavity.
 
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That is what a guy on another forum did. he put a solenoid valve on it to make it even easier.

I would not want to use the OEM plug because it corrodes, but if all you are doing is a one-time install, then it is probably OK.

I have an updated plug (brass) and will probably have a machinist at work drill it out and thread the outside of the knurled **** for NPT. Also, I would want the hole to be as large as possible so that draining would not be restricted much (edit - as Tim mentioned).
 
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