Notices
1994.5 - 1997 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel  

PCM Failure?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 17, 2014 | 05:06 PM
  #1  
TheBigLebowski's Avatar
TheBigLebowski
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
PCM Failure?

The Truck is a 1996 F350 Powerstroke with 120k on the odometer.

I just recently put in a Beans 6 position tuner, and put about 600 miles on the truck with no issues.

Three days ago, I had the truck cut out on me while going down the freeway, i turned off the key and turned it back on, the truck started up instantly. The only DTC was P0603.

Two days ago, I had the truck cut out on me twice. This time I had to turn off the key and let the truck sit for a few minutes before it would fire. Once again the only trouble code was P0603.

Once I got the truck home i replaced the CPS, hoping that would solve the stalling issue.

Unfortunately it did not, while I was driving the truck yesterday it shut down on me again. This time the truck would not start at all, the CEL was on and the WTS light would not come on.

I had the truck towed to a nearby parking lot and then proceeded to remove the Beans 6 position chip.

Once the chip was out the truck fired up immediately. Unfortunately a new problem arisen. Under partial throttle the truck will drive around just fine, but at 50% throttle or more the truck develops a stumble above 1800 rpm. If you try and drive through the stumble it will cause the engine to cut out. The stumble also exists when the engine is revved in neutral. DTCs were P0603 and P0606.

Once I got the truck back home, I reinstalled the Beans chip to see what would happen. The truck fired up like it should and idled for an hour without any stalling issues. reinstalling the tuner also fixed the stumble I was experiencing under heavy throttle.

Just to be sure, I shut the truck off, disconnected both batteries, and removed the chip. After the chip was out, I restarted the truck, and with no chip in the truck the studdering issues returned under heavy throttle.

Does anybody know what would cause this studdering under heavy throttle? It must be something that the Chip bypasses but what? PCM, ICM, ECM? Bad Fuse? Bad Relay? At this point I am stumped. Any input, advice, or general direction would be greatly appreciated.
 
Reply
Old Aug 17, 2014 | 07:31 PM
  #2  
fordpride's Avatar
fordpride
Post Fiend
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 15,505
Likes: 18
From: Livoina,La
The cutting out sounds like a lose chip.

The stumble sounds like bad injector orings.

The add pressure from the chip could have taking out te orings that were due to be changed anyway.

Welcome to FTE !
 
Reply
Old Aug 17, 2014 | 08:58 PM
  #3  
TheBigLebowski's Avatar
TheBigLebowski
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by fordpride
The cutting out sounds like a lose chip.

The stumble sounds like bad injector orings.

The add pressure from the chip could have taking out te orings that were due to be changed anyway.

Welcome to FTE !
Thanks!

But on that note, I suspect its not the injector orings because when the chip is reinstalled the stumbling subsides.

So I supect your right about the chip being loose, but my new concern is why does it stumble without the chip in?
 
Reply
Old Aug 17, 2014 | 09:09 PM
  #4  
rusty1161's Avatar
rusty1161
Mountain Pass
15 Year Member
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 174
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by TheBigLebowski
Thanks!

But on that note, I suspect its not the injector orings because when the chip is reinstalled the stumbling subsides.

So I supect your right about the chip being loose, but my new concern is why does it stumble without the chip in?
If the chip programming calls for more ICP(higher pressures) that may make worn injector o-rings more apparent and wear them more quickly, resulting in stumbles even with the chip removed.

Rusty
 
Reply
Old Aug 17, 2014 | 09:35 PM
  #5  
fordpride's Avatar
fordpride
Post Fiend
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 15,505
Likes: 18
From: Livoina,La
With the chip its raising the high pressure oil and could be making up for the worn orings
 
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2014 | 04:52 PM
  #6  
TheBigLebowski's Avatar
TheBigLebowski
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Installed New Injector Orings

I just installed new aliant orings on the injectors and went for a drive, the stumble at high rpms has been reduced but is still existent.

Any Ideas? I'm hoping its just air that needs to be worked out but i have my doubts.

Only dtc is p111 system pass.
 
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2014 | 05:35 PM
  #7  
fordpride's Avatar
fordpride
Post Fiend
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 15,505
Likes: 18
From: Livoina,La
How many miles since you have done the orings ?
 
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2014 | 07:06 PM
  #8  
TheBigLebowski's Avatar
TheBigLebowski
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
I'm thinking it may be the IPR valve, i will check ipr and icp on my monitor next time i drive the truck.

Anyone know of a good place to look for an IPR valve?
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-2

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-6

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-9

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
Old Aug 23, 2014 | 07:07 PM
  #9  
TheBigLebowski's Avatar
TheBigLebowski
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by fordpride
How many miles since you have done the orings ?
25, I will drive it some more tonight and post the results
 
Reply
Old Aug 29, 2014 | 09:31 PM
  #10  
TheBigLebowski's Avatar
TheBigLebowski
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Just want to update...

The truck was still having the stumbling issue after about a hundred miles, it turns out that the new cps that I put in the truck was defective right out of the box. After changing it out again, this time with an oem sensor, the truck has been running smoothly.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Ryedogg-7.3
1994.5 - 1997 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
10
Jan 20, 2015 07:01 PM
bryanlindborg600
1994.5 - 1997 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
8
Feb 25, 2011 01:05 AM
2 stroke man
1994.5 - 1997 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
24
Mar 10, 2008 03:03 PM
stealth1
1999 - 2016 Super Duty
17
Mar 15, 2004 10:05 AM
Scortty 45
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
4
Aug 15, 2003 12:45 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:49 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-1
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-3
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE