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Old Jun 19, 2014 | 10:49 PM
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Please Help... ICP Mod Idle Relay

I apologize in advance I have searched this to death and have found allot of contradictory ways to wire up a 10k/18k icp resistor mod. I wired in a 22k resistor inline and it seems to run real good now. Just a quick puff of smoke at wot. Lots better throttle response. I've had trouble reading all the posts deciding who's got obs and who's got the new body style and who used what resistor. So I didn't know what value to use. Ended up with 22k, idle now sucks. Doesnt sound lopey to me it sounds more like it's hitting on 4 or 5 cylinders.

Finally... my question is how do I wire in a spst switch into the ivs relay so I can have a normal idle once again.

Also is the 22k going to harm the icp?

Thanks in advance. My apologies for being long winded.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 12:04 AM
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Either this is something new and hot, or something really old and busted. What are you trying to accomplish with this resistor?
 
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 12:20 AM
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I think it fools the computer into thinking the icp is lower than it actually is so it cranks the ipr up a bit.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 07:08 AM
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Either this is something new and hot, or something really old and busted. What are you trying to accomplish with this resistor?
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I think it fools the computer into thinking the icp is lower than it actually is so it cranks the ipr up a bit.
Yes - the 10K mod ups the ICP for meat under the hood... but the idle gets table scraps. The tuning has to struggle with the pulse width to compensate, and a truck not at 100% can react in unpredictable ways.

This mod may have been a "redneck chip" when these trucks were newer, but now it's just another way to confuse things when it comes time to troubleshoot the vehicle as it ages.

Just my opinion.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 07:24 AM
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I had that mod (10k) many years ago before having a programmer/custom chip. I used a this 0.5-Amp SPST Reed Relay at 12VDC : Relays | RadioShack.com connected to the idle validation switch to control the resistor to come in "off idle". I may still have the wiring, with the relay, still in my parts cabinet. I used to have a diagram of the wiring on my Webshots account, but was deleted and is no longer available.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 07:41 AM
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Well this mod is redneck but it costs a dollar and gains about 50hp/100ft lbs of torque and about 2mpg if you keep your foot out of it thanks to the higher injection pressures.

Can I wire it to look like this

Icp sensor --> 22k resistor --> relay -> other side of icp wire.

The relay will be triggered by the ivs voltage. This is a spst relay. At idle the icp circuit.would be grounded. Second you step on the go pedal it kicks in.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 08:09 AM
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Well this mod is redneck but it costs a dollar and gains about 50hp/100ft lbs of torque and about 2mpg if you keep your foot out of it thanks to the higher injection pressures.
I won't cry foul on this... I haven't done the mod. I will say I've had high-ICP tunes and low-ICP tunes, with many hardware configurations. Nothing I've done adds fuel economy to a properly-running truck - but I sure see the fuel needle spin in the wrong direction when the truck isn't at 100%.

Take very detailed readings of your fuel economy before and after - so you can be the "resistor guru" if it bumps your economy.

One thing to watch out for: Increasing ICP on old oil lines and injector O-rings can make you want to check your oil level. A lot of good it does to increase fuel economy if fuel is traded for oil burn.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 09:17 AM
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Yeah that's what I thought, the 10k mod, which is pretty much old and busted. If you want more horses get some real tunes on there. Tunes change more parameters and even transmission performance, so you get a lot more out of it. A Superchips flash on there is better than a 10k mod, or step up a bit for a 6 position switch or DP Tuner, lots of ways to go. You get what you pay for here. For the price of 2-3 tanks of fuel you can get good tunes.
 
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