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Old Jun 3, 2014 | 02:55 PM
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Can anyone tell me what years 460s had the mini gear reduction starters without solenoids on them?
 
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Old Jun 5, 2014 | 05:28 PM
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I have never seen one, and had previously thought they were a marine application only.

I did some digging on summit and a few other places, and it looks like they used them on about everything from 68 to 77/78. I could be wrong because it is hard to look up if they used a solenoid or not, and I'm spitballing.

What is your application and your goal?
 
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Old Jun 6, 2014 | 06:16 AM
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I'm looking at installing long tube headers on my 71 F250. It has a FE motor. From what I have been told the later years of the 460's have a mini starter on them. So I am looking at balancing a flex plat and changing the starter to the smaller starter. This will give me the ability to buy a replacement start over the counter vs. ordering one from on line store.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 02:54 PM
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I know little about FE motors. Your theory sounds plausible, but it also sounds like a lot of work. Is there such thing as a mini replacement for FE blocks or an adapter for a mini?
 
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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by cbakker
I have never seen one, and had previously thought they were a marine application only.

I did some digging on summit and a few other places, and it looks like they used them on about everything from 68 to 77/78.
Starter solenoid mounted on starter: 1968/76 Lincoln/Continental Mark III-IV 460 / 1968/73 Ford/Merc Passenger Car 429 / 1973/76 Ford/Merc Passenger Cars & F100/350 460.

Starter solenoid mounted on fender apron: 1977/79 F150/350 460 / 1975/97 E250/350 460 / 1977/78 FoMoCo Passenger Cars 460 / 1982/97 F250/350 460.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 03:25 PM
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Thank you for the info NumberDummy!

Is that the mini starter? From what I have seen it looks like the standard starter.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 05:53 PM
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I bought a mini from these guys,but I see it on their site anymore.Maybe give them a call.
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Old Jun 8, 2014 | 12:38 AM
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Okay, spent a large part of the day looking thru old NAPA starter books. I found what I was told should work. It is a Nippondenso off set gear reduction starter. NAPA part number Ray 2440208. This is for a diesel and I’m going to guess it will not work. Or has anyone tried it on there gas burner?
 
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Old Jun 8, 2014 | 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by nkf
From what I have been told the later years of the 460's have a mini starter on them.
'92-'97 have a PMGR starter but there is a solenoid mounted on them.

I have one of those DB starters and it works well.
No headers, so I can't speak about clearance/heat issues.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2014 | 08:26 AM
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I have header's with the mini from DB.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2014 | 11:02 AM
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Maybe you just need a reflective sock?

I have no idea about mini starters for an FE unless you go to a $$$ Tilton.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2014 | 12:19 AM
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I received a heat shield that goes around the outside of my starter which I was able to install with my banks headers that don't have a lot of clearance.
 
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