Notices
1983 - 2012 Ranger & B-Series All Ford Ranger and Mazda B-Series models

How do you stop engine from rotating when torqueing Bolts.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 22, 2014 | 01:46 PM
  #1  
SaturnSky11's Avatar
SaturnSky11
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
How do you stop engine from rotating when torqueing Bolts.

Have a 2001 Ford ranger 3.0L with an Auto transmission that I’m currently work on replacing the timing chain cover gasket. Looking ahead The question I have is when re-installing the Harmonic Balancer (using a HB installer tool) then torqueing down its bolt as well as re-installing the crankshaft pulley what is the best way to prevent the engine from rotating? Engine is in the vehicle.

Thanks for any input to this question.
 
Reply
Old May 22, 2014 | 07:46 PM
  #2  
Rockledge's Avatar
Rockledge
Post Fiend
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,748
Likes: 16
From: Connecticut
How about a strap wrench?
 
Reply
Old May 22, 2014 | 08:24 PM
  #3  
SaturnSky11's Avatar
SaturnSky11
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
I think that might work for the pulley & maybe the harmonic balancer bolt. But what would you put on when pressing on the harmonic balancer?
 
Reply
Old May 22, 2014 | 09:37 PM
  #4  
Tedster9's Avatar
Tedster9
Post Fiend
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 19,311
Likes: 97
From: Waterloo, Iowa
Always put it in gear w/ a manual. Or some wedge a block of wood in the flywheel, neither of will work with an AT? Not sure on that. Have changed them in an automatic, remember the problem, can't remember the remedy. (Helpful ain't I?)

Another method is to introduce a good length of rope into a cylinder so it locks up the motor that way. That one never appealed to me enough to try it, for sure.
 
Reply
Old May 22, 2014 | 10:43 PM
  #5  
Old93junk's Avatar
Old93junk
Post Fiend
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 23,849
Likes: 20
From: McKenzie River
Use a air impact gun.........problem is no longer a problem.
 
Reply
Old May 22, 2014 | 10:56 PM
  #6  
mfp4073's Avatar
mfp4073
Fleet Mechanic
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,726
Likes: 10
From: down south
access plate on the back of the "bellhousing". Wedge a screwdriver in the teeth. Takes 2 people, but its doable with reg tools.
 
Reply
Old May 23, 2014 | 04:22 AM
  #7  
SaturnSky11's Avatar
SaturnSky11
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Old93junk
Use a air impact gun.........problem is no longer a problem.
Don't have one.
 
Reply
Old May 23, 2014 | 04:26 AM
  #8  
SaturnSky11's Avatar
SaturnSky11
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by mfp4073
access plate on the back of the "bellhousing". Wedge a screwdriver in the teeth. Takes 2 people, but its doable with reg tools.
Could you explain this method some more?
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-2

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-7

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
Old May 23, 2014 | 09:10 AM
  #9  
tomw's Avatar
tomw
Logistics Pro
20 Year Member
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 4,907
Likes: 39
From: suburban atlanta
If you wedge the screwdriver, it may get jammed and then you'll be turning the crank bolt backwards to un-jam the tool.
I believe the safest method is to pick an easily accessible spark plug, remove it, and feed in a couple feet of rope. Rotate the crankshaft by hand {ratchet wrench} in the counterclockwise direction until the rope jams the piston and prevents it from turning.
Make sure to leave some rope hanging out the plug hole or you'll be fishing...
To install, you'll have to un-jam the rope, or just turn the crankshaft in the opposite direction until it jams again.
I would not use an impact wrench unless it had an accurate way to measure the torque. A broken bolt due to over-tightening is a big price to pay if you use an impact.
tom
 
Reply
Old May 23, 2014 | 09:56 PM
  #10  
mfp4073's Avatar
mfp4073
Fleet Mechanic
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,726
Likes: 10
From: down south
edit, wrong thread!
 
Reply
Old May 24, 2014 | 07:45 AM
  #11  
SaturnSky11's Avatar
SaturnSky11
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by tomw
I believe the safest method is to pick an easily accessible spark plug, remove it, and feed in a couple feet of rope. Rotate the crankshaft by hand {ratchet wrench} in the counterclockwise direction until the rope jams the piston and prevents it from turning.
Why would I rotate the crankshaft counterclockwise? When I go to install the Balancer & torque the bolts the Crankshaft will rotate Clockwise with the Bolt. Undoing the CCW jam. It should eventually jam going the other way. My concern with this method is about damaging a valve. How would I make sure I'm on the compression stroke?
 
Reply
Old May 24, 2014 | 08:20 AM
  #12  
tomw's Avatar
tomw
Logistics Pro
20 Year Member
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 4,907
Likes: 39
From: suburban atlanta
CCW to remove. CW to install. You do the math. One would 'think' you had to REMOVE it before you could then INSTALL it.
If you just rotate CW after R&R the balancer, the piston will go down on the power stroke, will come up on the exhaust with the valve open,etc. To avoid, unjam the rope & remove it. Rotate the crankshaft CCW so it is on compression, feed in rope, rotate CW.
To avoid th valve potential problem, think about where you are in the combustion process, and always jam the rope immediately BEFORE tdc to tighten, and AFTER TDC to remove. It take a bit more, but you will be sure the valves are closed.
tom

Remember: Righty Tighty, Lefty Loosey
 
Reply
Old May 24, 2014 | 09:17 AM
  #13  
SaturnSky11's Avatar
SaturnSky11
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by tomw
CCW to remove. CW to install. You do the math. One would 'think' you had to REMOVE it before you could then INSTALL it.
If you just rotate CW after R&R the balancer, the piston will go down on the power stroke, will come up on the exhaust with the valve open,etc. To avoid, unjam the rope & remove it. Rotate the crankshaft CCW so it is on compression, feed in rope, rotate CW.
Thanks for helping tomw. I'm a novice to some extent. Done a lot of work on my vehicles just not in this area. I have the balancer off. Used a breaker bar up against the frame & turned the engine over to get the bolt off. This thread was started with the intent to re-install the balancer & pulley which is where I'm at now.
Please clarify your term "R&R the Balancer" (Remove & replace?) I'm figuring your referring to piston #1. So once at TDC I'll rotate CCW to lower piston back down the compression stroke. Insert the rope. About 2 feet OK? Then rotate the crank CW back up the compression stroke till it can't rotate anymore. Then finish installing the balancer & torque its bolt. Then install the Pulley & torque the 4 bolts. Once this is done then rotate crank back CCW to remove rope. Does this make it seem I have the step correct?
 
Reply
Old May 24, 2014 | 12:04 PM
  #14  
tomw's Avatar
tomw
Logistics Pro
20 Year Member
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 4,907
Likes: 39
From: suburban atlanta
In a word, yes. You nailed it. Good luck.
tom
 
Reply
Old May 25, 2014 | 01:19 PM
  #15  
SaturnSky11's Avatar
SaturnSky11
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
With the use of a Harmonic Balancer installer & the rope inserted into cylinder #1. I was able to get the Balancer & the Pulley installed back on. I used about 6-7 feet of 1/4 inch rope. Thanks of everyone who helped.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
jerryst
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
3
Jul 12, 2018 02:19 PM
Encho
Small Block V8 (221, 260, 289, 5.0/302, 5.8/351W)
14
Mar 2, 2010 10:50 PM
muddyford911
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
3
Jun 17, 2009 08:36 PM
FFOORRDD96
1983 - 2012 Ranger & B-Series
5
Dec 28, 2004 11:46 PM
ExcellentRed
Small Block V8 (221, 260, 289, 5.0/302, 5.8/351W)
4
Aug 1, 2004 04:52 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:24 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-6
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE