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Old May 10, 2014 | 06:40 PM
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Possible Fire hazzard

Picked up an 86 F150 yesterday for the non-rusted cab. Previous owner had a fire in the dash (last Winter). In dissection we discovered that it looked like it started in the heater area. Found a lot of burned pine needles and plugged cowl drains. That resistor probably got hot enough to start the fire.
I know that when I bought my 79 if you turned the blower motor on pine needles would blow out the defroster vents.
 
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Old May 10, 2014 | 06:51 PM
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Been meaning to disassemble the box on mine. I know there's a resistor in there somewhere, and I know there are some leaves, gotta be. Probably wouldn't hurt to oil the motor either.
 
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Old May 10, 2014 | 08:23 PM
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This happened to me before, thankfully it went out. The scary thing is that I drove 40 miles, shutoff the truck and I was gone for maybe 45 minutes. I got back in and went less than half a mile down the road and I had smoke pouring out of the vents. It could have burned up in the parking lot.

There was no damage, I pulled over, turned the cold air on and unplugged the resistor. It smelled like burnt leaves for months.
 
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Old May 10, 2014 | 08:25 PM
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The resistors get red hot. I know, I have run the motor with the resistor pack out in my hand looking at it. That's why they are mounted in the airflow of the blower, to keep them cool.

The later model cowl panels got rid of this problem by getting rid of the slots and going to little round holes around the wiper area.
 
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Old May 10, 2014 | 10:31 PM
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And the later cowls will fit ours. But I don't like the look of them, so my body man is gluing a black plastic mesh under the cowl to keep the junk out.
 
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Old May 11, 2014 | 10:07 AM
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I an going to put hardware cloth under mine....
But I "stopped the problem" at it's source.....chain saw!
 
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Yeah, I gotta clean that up. On the 64 with fresh air heater, there's a little door that can be opened for summertime. Works good. But there's no way to reach inside. Do this today, should be 15 minutes maybe.

The way the motor is wired, running at highest speed should at least keep the resistor from being energized.
 
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Old May 11, 2014 | 12:11 PM
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Shortly after I got my 84, I was driving down the highway, and kept smelling leaves burning. Thought it was outside, until the interior filled with smoke!
Pulled over, looked under the hood, under the dash, nothing wrong. So I took off, the smoke stopped. That weekend, I pulled the blower motor, didn't find anything unusual in the heater case. Must have been a stray leaf or 2 in there.
 
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Shortly after I got my 84, I was driving down the highway, and kept smelling leaves burning. Thought it was outside, until the interior filled with smoke!
Pulled over, looked under the hood, under the dash, nothing wrong. So I took off, the smoke stopped. That weekend, I pulled the blower motor, didn't find anything unusual in the heater case. Must have been a stray leaf or 2 in there.
Did the same thing with an 82. Was driving down the street and thought someone was burning leaves. Then I realized that there were no fires within a mile - and it was us! Hardware cloth is the way to go.
 
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Well there's a half hour I'll never get back. Took about 10 screws out and the heater panel, and still no access behind there. Heater core looks good though. Tried a shop vac that doesn't work. Maybe a controlled burn. Looks like removing the ductwork is the way to go.
 
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Pull the blower motor and clean out in there. Pull the kick panels and pull the block-off plate into the area there.
 
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The cab I have on the trailer, has no fenders so it's easy to get to the drain plugs at the bottom of the cowl. I think pulling the inner fender down will allow access to the drains, and take the cowl off. My 86 with fenders on it is in NY so I can't check. On the pass side of the firewall there is a rectangular opening that allows some access. Again truck in NY so I can't check what goes there. Blower motor ? maybe.
 
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When I bought my 86 I pulled the blower motor and fed a 5/8 heater hose attached to the shop vac into the heater box. Filled a 2 1/2 gallon vac canister with leaves acorns mouse nest etc. ~Bill
 
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On the 64 type the heater core is such that pulling the motor and squirrel cage doesn't do anything to access that part. Everything was OK in the main box, but the leaves pile up just behind the fresh air door on the other side of core. HFA. That isn't such a hazard tho not good, will cut down on air flow and drag on motor.
 
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