thoughts on vegetable oil conversion?
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From: Fort Lauderdale, FL
thoughts on vegetable oil conversion?
Didn't see anything about this in the stickies...
I had a guy yesterday stop me and ask why I wasn't running veg oil instead of diesel... He said he successfully ran many powerstrokes on it and it was a ton cheaper.
Questions:
1. Is it wise to do in the 6.0, or am I asking for trouble?
2. What kind of mileage could I expect to get?
3. How much does a typical conversion cost and what's involved?
4. How many guys actually do this on their trucks?
5. Anything I should be asking but haven't?
Thanks!
I had a guy yesterday stop me and ask why I wasn't running veg oil instead of diesel... He said he successfully ran many powerstrokes on it and it was a ton cheaper.
Questions:
1. Is it wise to do in the 6.0, or am I asking for trouble?
2. What kind of mileage could I expect to get?
3. How much does a typical conversion cost and what's involved?
4. How many guys actually do this on their trucks?
5. Anything I should be asking but haven't?
Thanks!
Laughing Gas
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Probably you're asking for trouble. People get into running WVO because they think it's cheaper than diesel. But you'll need to spend a lot of time finding oil sources, making sure your oil isn't contaminated with anything, filtering it very well (preferably with a centrifuge) ... and the 6.0 has plenty of issues already and that's on pump diesel. Once you've spent all the time, you'll find that you're not really saving money.
My advice, if you're seriously interested in getting into this hobby, is to make biodiesel out of that WVO. Costs more (though once you factor in your time, it may not) and your truck will be much happier on correctly made bio.
My advice, if you're seriously interested in getting into this hobby, is to make biodiesel out of that WVO. Costs more (though once you factor in your time, it may not) and your truck will be much happier on correctly made bio.
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From: Spanaway
Not being an expert (X being the unknown factor and Spurt being a drip under pressure).
I read something about having to change the engine oil much sooner. That may be do
to the fact that you can see a more acidic condition of the source oil and if not treated
right and maybe even when treated right you get a more acidic fuel and that is not good
for the engine with all it's mixed metals.
Sean
I read something about having to change the engine oil much sooner. That may be do
to the fact that you can see a more acidic condition of the source oil and if not treated
right and maybe even when treated right you get a more acidic fuel and that is not good
for the engine with all it's mixed metals.
Sean
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From: Tuttle, OK
Didn't see anything about this in the stickies...
I had a guy yesterday stop me and ask why I wasn't running veg oil instead of diesel... He said he successfully ran many powerstrokes on it and it was a ton cheaper.
Questions:
1. Is it wise to do in the 6.0, or am I asking for trouble?
6.0 or 7.3s are fine, the 6.4 isnt a candidate.
2. What kind of mileage could I expect to get?
Roughly the same as diesel but who cares since its free
3. How much does a typical conversion cost and what's involved?
The best and only converssion I recommend for a ford is WVO Diesel Conversion | SVO Grease Conversion | Ford Vegistroke Powerstroke | Biodiesel Conversion Do some reading on that forum and you will learn a lot. Myself and Skyskijason are on there. Browse the online store. Dont get sticker shock, I have pocketed $40,000 in fuel saving since I started this in 2006. Fuel was still $1.50 then too so the ROI came slower. Whats involved couldnt be answered in a post. There is tons of reading so get you a cup of coffee and start.
4. How many guys actually do this on their trucks?
Estimated 10k-20k is our best guess based on the sales numbers from BFT
5. Anything I should be asking but haven't?
Thanks!
I had a guy yesterday stop me and ask why I wasn't running veg oil instead of diesel... He said he successfully ran many powerstrokes on it and it was a ton cheaper.
Questions:
1. Is it wise to do in the 6.0, or am I asking for trouble?
6.0 or 7.3s are fine, the 6.4 isnt a candidate.
2. What kind of mileage could I expect to get?
Roughly the same as diesel but who cares since its free
3. How much does a typical conversion cost and what's involved?
The best and only converssion I recommend for a ford is WVO Diesel Conversion | SVO Grease Conversion | Ford Vegistroke Powerstroke | Biodiesel Conversion Do some reading on that forum and you will learn a lot. Myself and Skyskijason are on there. Browse the online store. Dont get sticker shock, I have pocketed $40,000 in fuel saving since I started this in 2006. Fuel was still $1.50 then too so the ROI came slower. Whats involved couldnt be answered in a post. There is tons of reading so get you a cup of coffee and start.
4. How many guys actually do this on their trucks?
Estimated 10k-20k is our best guess based on the sales numbers from BFT
5. Anything I should be asking but haven't?
Thanks!
Laughing Gas
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From: Florida
Everyone has given excellent advice. I am a biodiesel user since 2008. Here is my 2c. I did look into WVO - it was hard to find. A good friend owns 2 fast food restaurants so I thought I could get oil from him. A company pays him to collect it - about 50c/gal - but it is usually stolen before it gets picked up. You may have better luck but I would expect to pay something for it.
You are going to need to read and learn a lot about oil. Filtering and removing water are very important. Oil pH and free fatty acids can be another problem. Many oils like to get thick and viscous at lower temperatures (like Crisco) so you need some type of heating plan unless you live near the equator. If you are willing to read, learn and spend some money on the set-up, it will probably be very rewarding.
You are going to need to read and learn a lot about oil. Filtering and removing water are very important. Oil pH and free fatty acids can be another problem. Many oils like to get thick and viscous at lower temperatures (like Crisco) so you need some type of heating plan unless you live near the equator. If you are willing to read, learn and spend some money on the set-up, it will probably be very rewarding.
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From: Tuttle, OK
One pass through a simply centrifuge at 10 gph and 150* will clean and dewater any oil. oil ph and FFA doen't play into this like with biodiesel production. Depending on where your located, oil can be hard to find. In the NE it seems harder than in the midwest or south. There is no competition here in OK for oil and renderers only pay there customers a couple hundred bucks a year. I pay them more than that by being a loyal customer in their restaurants. They know me by name before I ask for the oil and I always get it.
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