Notices
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel  
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: DP Tuner

good crate engine?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 3, 2014 | 10:57 PM
  #1  
Red454sedgwick's Avatar
Red454sedgwick
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 0
good crate engine?

anybody know of a place to get a good crate engine. I got and 02 cc, thats got a rod knock
Or I rebuild it myself any tips on that.
Also is there a good source for rebuild injectors?
 

Last edited by Stewart_H; Apr 4, 2014 at 01:19 PM.
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2014 | 01:28 AM
  #2  
BigAlsPSD's Avatar
BigAlsPSD
Post Fiend
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 5,470
Likes: 3
From: Pea Ridge, AR
Club FTE Gold Member
I have not heard that much about new long blocks, Clay at Riffraffdiesel.com used to sell them, but they are not listed that I can find any longer.

I would first ask if you are sure it's a rod knocking? These motors are pretty stout. The injectors can certainly hammer away if they are failing or even if fuel pressure is not being maintained.

Every time I have been in need I have just found some on craigslist or in the classifieds on these forums and others.

If you wanted to take it to a shop and have it rebuilt Clay does sell the overhaul kit.

Ford - 99-03 Super Duty 7.3L - Powertrain - Engine Rebuild Kits - Riffraff Diesel Performance

And as for the injectors, here's Clay again selling Full force injectors Ford - 99-03 Super Duty 7.3L - Fuel System & Related - Full Force Diesel Injectors - Riffraff Diesel Performance
 
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2014 | 03:13 AM
  #3  
Tugly's Avatar
Tugly
Hotshot
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 18,849
Likes: 179
From: Puget Sound
Originally Posted by Red454sedgwick
anybody know of a place to get a good create engine. I got and 02 cc, thats got a rod knock
Or I rebuild it myself any tips on that.
Also is there a good source for rebuild injectors?
While I'm of no help with a crate engine, I'd like to hear that alleged "rod knock". I don't know how much experience you have with the 7.3L, so I just share this in the event it proves helpful. These two videos are not rod knock, they are injector problems.

Bad injector:


Loose injector:


Same engine, different sticks:

 
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2014 | 06:55 AM
  #4  
HKusp's Avatar
HKusp
Lead Driver
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 7,760
Likes: 27
From: Hampton, Maryland.
Club FTE Gold Member
My first thought was "Good Lord, what is a create engain, and why would you want to create one?"

But I got it now.
 
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2014 | 07:06 AM
  #5  
Dan V's Avatar
Dan V
Lead Driver
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 5,647
Likes: 891
From: north of Minneapolis, MN
I'll second Rich's thought on the video.

Crate engine? Some builders, I think the Ford reman unit doesn't have a good reputation. I've rebuilt one, sent the machine work out.....it's expensive, heavy and you are gonna learn about things like injector cups.
 
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2014 | 10:23 AM
  #6  
Red454sedgwick's Avatar
Red454sedgwick
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 0
It's going to get all new cups, I've rebuilt a couple of 7.3 idi. This is a for hire job.
He had a bad injector that he run too long, I changed the injector and the smoke went away.
After that I drove it some to see if it would go away, it got worse and there are shavings in the oil.
I was always much better with wrenches than with sppeling.
 
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2014 | 10:52 AM
  #7  
HKusp's Avatar
HKusp
Lead Driver
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 7,760
Likes: 27
From: Hampton, Maryland.
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by Red454sedgwick
It's going to get all new cups, I've rebuilt a couple of 7.3 idi. This is a for hire job.
He had a bad injector that he run too long, I changed the injector and the smoke went away.
After that I drove it some to see if it would go away, it got worse and there are shavings in the oil.
I was always much better with wrenches than with sppeling.
No sweat, it was early and my mind wasn't as sharp as it can be which, isn't very, and I was confused, then I amused myself. No worries.
 
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2014 | 11:32 AM
  #8  
timmyboy76's Avatar
timmyboy76
Lead Driver
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 7,793
Likes: 50
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-3

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-4

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-6

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

 Joe Kucinski
Old Apr 4, 2014 | 01:20 PM
  #9  
Stewart_H's Avatar
Stewart_H
Super Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 29,380
Likes: 118
From: Central Coast of CA
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by Red454sedgwick
I was always much better with wrenches than with spelling.
No worries brother, I got your back.

Stewart
 
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2014 | 10:14 PM
  #10  
Red454sedgwick's Avatar
Red454sedgwick
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 0
I don't want to put an older engine in it, there a little different I was talking to him today I'm going to pull his engine and see what it needs,
I have a good 96 block and a wreaked 97, but this tread changed my mind on putting the 97 in it.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...and-crank.html
 
Reply
Old Apr 5, 2014 | 05:49 AM
  #11  
Kamstutz's Avatar
Kamstutz
Senior User
10 Year Member
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 269
Likes: 0
From: Huntington WV
Look for a IHC school bus engine for a short block to rebuild. There are a ton of them out there and cheaper that a Ford 7.3. Just make sure you get the improved 7.3 block with the upper added webs, 97+ IIRC. The final machining for the Ford 7.3 is the only difference, no # cyl is machined a little bigger for the heat. The only other difference is IHC uses a mechanical fuel pump on top of the engine and Ford uses a electronic pump. The Ford block uses a welsh plug to fill in the mechanical fuel pump hole.
 
Reply
Old May 16, 2014 | 10:21 PM
  #12  
Red454sedgwick's Avatar
Red454sedgwick
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 0
Found out what the know was it broke a skirt off a piston.
 
Reply
Old May 16, 2014 | 11:30 PM
  #13  
aawlberninf350's Avatar
aawlberninf350
It's a Van Gogh
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Shutterbug
Liked
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 7,795
Likes: 1,326
From: Elk Grove, CA
Club FTE Gold Member
Thanks for the update. How's the bore look?
 
Reply
Old May 16, 2014 | 11:45 PM
  #14  
Tim Hodgson's Avatar
Tim Hodgson
Fleet Mechanic
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,856
Likes: 52
From: Sacramento Delta, CA
Here you go:

Power Stroke Diesel - Power and Pride

You could have a windowed block and Ford takes the core without deduction.

The remanufacture video is pretty cool. They don't re-sleeve. They robot spin weld and bore.
Hmmm... then what about cavitation on the other side of the existing sleeves? They say they xray or some such thing so would that catch any cavitation divits on the other side of the sleeves? Or do they bore so deep and then build up so much weld material ao that it doesn't matter? Inquiring minds want to know...

And not only is the warranty 2 years, it is unlimited mileage which covers commercial vehicles as well as personal vehicles. And supposedly the warranty is nationwide.
 
Reply
Old May 17, 2014 | 02:13 PM
  #15  
Red454sedgwick's Avatar
Red454sedgwick
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 0
I haven't tore it apart just pulled the pan off, I'll get some pics when I tare it down,
As for a ford rebuild last time I asked it was 10,000 bucks for one and you had to pay ford to install it for warranty, I could rebuild it my self a couple times for that,
That spin weld sounds like a neat process
If I'm going to look in to a short block for know any ideas?
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:45 AM.

story-0
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-2
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-6
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE
story-7
Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

Slideshow: Ranking the 5 things owners love about their Super Duty and 5 things they don't

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:36:49


VIEW MORE
story-8
Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

Slideshow: Ranking all 12 Ford truck engines available in 2026.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 13:32:20


VIEW MORE
story-9
The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

Slideshow: The best Ford F-150 deal for every trim level (XL through Raptor)

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-21 15:59:01


VIEW MORE