223 crankshaft
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223 crankshaft
Hey everyone. I've been looking into a replacement crankshaft for my '63 223. (mine is cracked) 
Can anyone tell me if there are differences between the 223 crankshaft over the years before I pull the trigger on one? I see it listed sometimes as specific to a set of years, like '61-64. What gives?. Can a 215 crankshaft be used?
Can anyone tell me if there are differences between the 223 crankshaft over the years before I pull the trigger on one? I see it listed sometimes as specific to a set of years, like '61-64. What gives?. Can a 215 crankshaft be used?
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Hey everyone. I've been looking into a replacement crankshaft for my '63 223. (mine is cracked) Can anyone tell me if there are differences between the 223 crankshaft over the years before I pull the trigger on one? I see it listed sometimes as specific to a set of years, like '61-64. What gives?. Can a 215 crankshaft be used?
Can anyone tell me if there are differences between the 223 crankshaft over the years before I pull the trigger on one? I see it listed sometimes as specific to a set of years, like '61-64. What gives?. Can a 215 crankshaft be used?1952/53 215 isn't the same and neither is 1954/60 223, as the crank, rods and rod bearings are different.
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Thanks ND! That info's a huge help. Does anyone know where I can locate one? Is this the right part # C1AE-6303-B? I didn't have any luck on GreenSales, but I can't even be sure I'm searching the right part number.
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In researching this C1AE-6303-B 223 crankshaft (1961 part number), I found it was replaced by C2AZ-6303-A 223 crankshaft (1962 part number).
But wait, there's more! C2AZ-6303-A was replaced by C3AZ-6303-H 223 crankshaft (1963 part number).
C3AZ-6303-H is the only part number listed in the 1957/63 truck catalog for 1961/64 223.
Why aren't the other numbers listed? Because this catalog is the final 1970 edition, so the replaced numbers were omitted.
The good news is: I found TWO of these C1AE-6303-B 223 cranks NOS
No one else has any of this or the other part numbers.
But, more research is required as I suspect FoMoCo also replaced the 1961/62 rods and rod bearings with 1963/64 parts EDIT: That's exactly what FoMoCo did!
So, if your truck has its original C3AZ-6303-H crankshaft, I'd be leery of buying this C1AE crank, as it's was only listed for 1961.
EDIT: However, if you can find the 1961/62 rods and rod bearings, you could use them and the C1AE crank in your 1963 F100.
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So the plot thickens. I'll have to take a look at the crankshaft again tomorrow. I'm guessing the casting number should correlate to part number, C1, C2, or C3? The motor is still at original bore (going .030 over) so my guess is the crank is original to the motor. If my casting year is different from what I can find as a replacement, that means new rods are required too? Thanks again, I can't imagine trying to get this done wihout all the help. That could get costly quick.
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So the plot thickens. I'll have to take a look at the crankshaft again tomorrow. I'm guessing the casting number should correlate to part number, C1, C2, or C3? The motor is still at original bore (going .030 over) so my guess is the crank is original to the motor. If my casting year is different from what I can find as a replacement, that means new rods are required too? Thanks again, I can't imagine trying to get this done wihout all the help. That could get costly quick.
You cannot use the C1AE crank with 1963/64 rods and rod bearings.
So, what are your choices? Use 1961/62 rods and rod bearings along with the C1AE crank...or go to NAPA or an indie auto parts store, get a 1963/64 223 crank kit.
Kit consists of a used turned (reground) crank and new rod and main bearings. What will the sizes be, I dunno...could be .010" .020" or .030"
I suggest you call Engler Brothers Auto Parts in Santa Monica and see what they can come up with. This is the best dang auto parts store I'm aware of for old rolling piles of misery!
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Thanks again ND. I'll double check what I have and see what road that leads me down. I'll update this again. If nothing else, it will serve as good reference for the other lucky folks with "mileage makers".
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Not sure this will help your plight , but how about a complete engine and other parts?
1953-1966 Ford 223 straight 6 engine
1953-1966 Ford 223 straight 6 engine
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Yeah I know Bill, but a complete engine with a nice looking exhaust manifold is getting harder to find. You never know who might be driving south.
How are thing down in California? Looks like you guys are getting some snow up in the Sierra's.
How are thing down in California? Looks like you guys are getting some snow up in the Sierra's.
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That's certainly an option. I have family in Klamath Falls. I am waiting to hear back from Engler Brothers. They are reaching out to their vendors for me. I'm lucky that so far everyone I've spoken to has been really helpful (or tried to be). My crank is a C3AE casting, by the way. If nothing else, maybe another machine shop would be willing to try welding the one I have. Out of curiosity, what is the difference in connecting rods between 61-62 and 63-64?
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