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They are used in f150-f350 probably from 76-77 to 79 maybe. Possibly earlier. Not sure when aluminum case np208 started. Too early and it will be a divorce mounted 205 or a 203.
This wasn't as consistently true in Fords as it was in Chevs and Dodges, but generally the part time 205 case was used with manual transmissions and the full time 203 case was used with automatics.
This wasn't as consistently true in Fords as it was in Chevs and Dodges, but generally the part time 205 case was used with manual transmissions and the full time 203 case was used with automatics.
All I suggested was where to find them. I didn't say they all had them.
As far as autos vs manuals as to which got a 205 and what got a 203, you're so somewhat misleading. I've had 70s fords for a very long time and cycled through more than my share.... The part time 205 and the full time 203 was available on both the manual and automatics, without any real reason as to what went where. I've had plenty of 4spd trucks with a 203 and plenty of autos with a 205, and vice versa.
As far as chevy is concerned, they had a 50/50 chance for 203s in them from my experience. Dodge, well, who cares.
Sorry, my "this wasn't as consistently true..." was intended to apply to what I said later about the auto/full-time, manual/part-time pairing, and was just trying to add a little to what you had said, not take anything away from it.
What I remember, at least from what the magazines said back in the '70s, was that with Ford, a manual trans always had the 205 part time t.case and the autos usually had the 203 full time, but could come with the 205, especially later in the '70s.
"...chain drive alum case..."
Yuk,
if EB, Y not the C4 it came w/? An auto "that robs the least from the RWhp" of them all? Reverse, manuel V.B... outta do well in Callow-rodie.
For a C6 in an EB, see McFaine of 'Chessy', VA in his 408; over on CB dot com...
"...chain drive alum case..."
Yuk,
if EB, Y not the C4 it came w/? An auto "that robs the least from the RWhp" of them all? Reverse, manuel V.B... outta do well in Callow-rodie.
Can we try to refrain from the "texting" style of messages. We aren't limited to 160 characters; probably 1/4 of us use our phones to read and reply, and we still use as proper grammar and spelling as we can. Please take the time to do better so we can understand what you're trying to say.
As for the c4 from an early bronco, they are getting hard to find.
For a driver or mild off-road rig, you don't want a manual valvebody. They suck. And a good trans builder doesn't need to use one if they actually know what they are doing. My race transmissions can shift themselves pretty darn close to where I'd shift them.
We recommended the aod also, that way the op could drive his eb and get some better mpg. The c6 is just easy to find and that's what is so appealing. But it's heavy and hungry like you said.
For a driver or mild off-road rig, you don't want a manual valvebody. They suck.
I had an AOD with a manual valve body in my Bronco. I loved it EXCEPT that it had absolutely no compression braking in 1st or 2nd. Typical auto trans compression braking in D and OD, but downshifting to 2nd was like shifting into neutral. When I called Art Carr after the fact they said yes, that's the way it is. No compression braking made it unacceptable. That and my overheating problems (marginal cooling system could hardly keep up with the engine much less the added heat from the trans), I went back to a manual.
I've heard there are manual valve bodies for some autos that don't lose the compression braking. If that's true, I'd love that setup. But I'm not doing any more digging into that, so personally I'm sticking with manuals.
"...some autos that don't lose the compression braking..."
there is one co. that makes a V.B. for the C4 that will supply the 'kick-down' for that compression breaking. Is the co. named "Performance"? can't recall right now. Fella over on CB mentioned it yrs ago (or was it DClack, here?). I noted it in my archive & will research for those interested - post a PM. Don't wanna turn this inta a sales plug (no alternatives listed indicates endorsement).
"..."texting" style of messages..."
Yes sir, sorry I thought these were standards for folk on here
EB = early bronk i.e. 1966 -'77 model
RWhp = rear wheel horse power
V. B. = valve body assembly in auto transmission
Y = Why
Yuck= exclamation of displeasure
What's the difference between divorced and nondivorced?
Non-divorced attaches directly to the transmission. A flange on the trans tailshaft housing mates up with the mounting surface on the t.case and the trans tailshaft is splined into the t.case input gear.
Divorced t.cases mount away from the trans. They are physically mounted to the frame and have a short driveshaft going from the rear of the trans to a yoke on the t.case input shaft. They used to be common on pickups, but tend to push the t.case back too far for short wheelbase vehicles.