Cold temps / additives
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Cold temps / additives
Well it's -26 out today, I cycled the glow plugs 3 times for good measure, and the ol' girl fired right over. First time with that kind of cold for me and my truck... VERY PLEASED!
I've read about putting in like Diesel Kleen for performance, but I was just talking to my neighbor and he mentioned I should also be using something for gelling.
What are the recommended additives for fuel for keeping it from gelling?
I don't want to buy crap for it.
Thanks!
I've read about putting in like Diesel Kleen for performance, but I was just talking to my neighbor and he mentioned I should also be using something for gelling.
What are the recommended additives for fuel for keeping it from gelling?
I don't want to buy crap for it.
Thanks!
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Well it's -26 out today, I cycled the glow plugs 3 times for good measure, and the ol' girl fired right over. First time with that kind of cold for me and my truck... VERY PLEASED!
I've read about putting in like Diesel Kleen for performance, but I was just talking to my neighbor and he mentioned I should also be using something for gelling.
What are the recommended additives for fuel for keeping it from gelling?
I don't want to buy crap for it.
Thanks!
I've read about putting in like Diesel Kleen for performance, but I was just talking to my neighbor and he mentioned I should also be using something for gelling.
What are the recommended additives for fuel for keeping it from gelling?
I don't want to buy crap for it.
Thanks!
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yep, which i recently found out isn't actually labeled Diesel "Kleen" like the grey bottle (was coaching a buddy on what to buy via text and and he couldn't find Diesel "Kleen" in a white bottle on the shelf where he was shopping):
but that's what i use as well, so far with no gelling here in MI.
but that's what i use as well, so far with no gelling here in MI.
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There is lots of good products out there that you can use. I also carry a bottle of deicer just incase I do gel up. I don't think you need to cycle the glow plugs either if you have your truck plugged in.
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Mountain Pass
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I live just 8 miles north of you Josh, in Eaton.
Crazy.
Well, as luck would have it, I went to run an errand and after about a 5 minute idle warm up, I left down the street and the truck had no power, and started to sputter and would barely hold an idle. Ace Hardware was listed as a dealer of this stuff, so I was trying to bee-line it there. I got there barely. Unfortunately, they didn't stock it...so I had to settle for what they had. "Gunk" brand... I hope it's decent.
I put it into the truck which is just under full, and let it sit there and idle for a bit longer. It didn't do it again, so I'm hoping that I caught it in time. Because I'm so not down for Gellin.
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I own rental property in Severance and live in Fort Collins.
The main the stations use fuel that is already pre-treated (it's Colorado law actually), however, the smaller and low volume stations are sketchy at best.
All Shraders stations use fuel pre-treated by Team Petroleum in Fort Collins. They use Diesel Power Service. Hill Oil uses Howes Diesel-Treat, they treat most Chevron stations in the Greeley area.
Josh
The main the stations use fuel that is already pre-treated (it's Colorado law actually), however, the smaller and low volume stations are sketchy at best.
All Shraders stations use fuel pre-treated by Team Petroleum in Fort Collins. They use Diesel Power Service. Hill Oil uses Howes Diesel-Treat, they treat most Chevron stations in the Greeley area.
Josh
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Well ****. I thought I was in the clear. I get up this morning, and it's -8. Truck starts fine. Just like yesterday, after about 5 or so minutes of warm up (gauges read EOT 132 and EWT 130, it was beginning to blow a little warm....so I decided to leave for work.
I get half way down the culdesac and lose all power, and the truck dies. It won't start. I'm assuming I'm gelled.
Now what? I went out onto google and read to just change your fuel filte....that easy?
Also read to get some DS 911. But that makes me worry, because I just added a full bottle of the other stuff to my tank.
Can I add that also, without damaging anything?
I get half way down the culdesac and lose all power, and the truck dies. It won't start. I'm assuming I'm gelled.
Now what? I went out onto google and read to just change your fuel filte....that easy?
Also read to get some DS 911. But that makes me worry, because I just added a full bottle of the other stuff to my tank.
Can I add that also, without damaging anything?
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That sucks.
Diesel 911 is used to de-gel filters. With the 6.0 frame filter being horizontal it doesn't work as well.
I'm surprised your having issues. Do you remember what station you got the fuel from? It's colorado law the fuel is to be conditioned well below the average low temp, and I'm surprised your having gelling issues if you got fuel from a major station like Shell, ConocoPhillips or something along those lines.
Hopefully you didn't get fuel from Gas-a-mat or something.
Either way, if you can document the gelling they should reimburse the cost of filters etc.
Josh
Diesel 911 is used to de-gel filters. With the 6.0 frame filter being horizontal it doesn't work as well.
I'm surprised your having issues. Do you remember what station you got the fuel from? It's colorado law the fuel is to be conditioned well below the average low temp, and I'm surprised your having gelling issues if you got fuel from a major station like Shell, ConocoPhillips or something along those lines.
Hopefully you didn't get fuel from Gas-a-mat or something.
Either way, if you can document the gelling they should reimburse the cost of filters etc.
Josh
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I fuel up at King Soopers. Have never had problems with their GAS. But I haven't had much experience with the diesel fuel yet.
But it's a larger station, and it's always busy...so I know it's not old fuel at least.
I use a cheap gas application, but after being stranded by bad gas years ago, I refuse to get any kind of fuel from places like u-fill-it or what ever. It HAS to be a major line.
But it's a larger station, and it's always busy...so I know it's not old fuel at least.
I use a cheap gas application, but after being stranded by bad gas years ago, I refuse to get any kind of fuel from places like u-fill-it or what ever. It HAS to be a major line.
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Fuel isnt gelled. Popped the engine bay filter and it looks great. Was able to get it started and pulled back in my driveway. But it doesnt run strong. Seems very labored. Neighbor works on diesels and told me to revert my chip to stock, because in the cold the chip can give it just a little too much fuel to be able to run. So I did that....cant hurt anything.
But now im nervous as to the real culprit. I havent had time to save up for anything big yet. Lol.
But now im nervous as to the real culprit. I havent had time to save up for anything big yet. Lol.
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i think you're more apt to find gelling at the lower filter, since -hopefully- that would catch it before it made it to the engine bay filter.
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Ok....but that makes no sense to me as I would think that the fuel would gel at the same rate anywhere in the lines....tank being last as the volume of fuel there is much more dense.
So how would the gelling happen in one filter location and not the other?
So how would the gelling happen in one filter location and not the other?
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The gelling gets caught at the first filter, and it starts to built up on itself. Gentle heat, ie a hair dryer to the lower filter for a good long time, could help. DS 911 is a last resort, but it will dissolve the hell in the filter. One thing you can do is change lower filter, put new in, then 911 treat, then run at idle to circulate and mix. I seriously doubt the lower is gelled if you added a whole bottle to a full tank though, that is strange.